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{{info|Information|Here you can post updates on what you're working on or a notice to others concerned with the development of the wiki. For general discussion see the [[The Sims Wiki talk:Community Portal|Community Portal talk]] and for minor news see the [[The Sims Wiki:Development Portal|Development Portal main page]].}}
   
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== Giving TS4 Headshots Black Background ==
{{info|Information|Here you can post updates on what you're working on or a notice to other concerned with the development of the wiki. For general discussion see the [[The Sims Wiki talk:Community Portal|Community Portal talk]] and for minor news see the [[The Sims Wiki:Development Portal|Development Portal main page]].}}
 
   
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Is it an idea, that like the TS2 headshots and the TS3 headshots to give all TS4 headshots a black background as well? It might not be necessary, but it gives the wikia a consistent look doesn't it? I'd like to hear your thoughts [[User:DeSims|<b><span style="font-family:AR Bonnie"><span style="color:#00ac35"><span style="font-size:23px">D</span>e</span><span style="font-size:19px"><span style="color:#0075ac"><span style="font-size:23px">S</span><span style="font-size:19px">ims</span></span></span></span></b>]] [[User_talk:DeSims|<span style="font-family:Papyrus"><span style="color:#0075ac"><sup><small>(talk)</small></sup></span></span>]] 19:59, September 19, 2017 (UTC)
==Header image 'broken'==
 
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! Issue || Browsers affected || Cause || Severity || Resolution
 
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| Top menu bar (A.K.A. the 'Sims faces mosaic') image is broken and repeating.
 
| [[File:Mozilla_Firefox_logo.png|30px|link=wikipedia:Firefox]]
 
| The top menu bar appears to be wider than usual - unknown reason
 
|style="width:50px;background-color:#CCFFBB" |Minor
 
| [[File:Red x cross uncheck bad.svg|30px|Unresolved]]
 
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As stated above, the mosaic image is broken, at least in my browser (Firefox). If any other users see this issue, please chime in here. If you see this issue and are using a browser other than Firefox, please include it on the table above.
 
   
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==Updating {{t|Pagecover}}==
As for solutions, I'm thinking, if this was a Wikia-wide change to the menu bar width, that perhaps we can rig up some css code to re-narrow the bar (hopefully this doesn't violate TOS)... or we can maybe contact JoePlay, the person who designed the original, to have him re-do it with the new, wider setting. -- '''[[User:LostInRiverview|<font color="green">LostInRiverview</font>]]<sup> [[User_talk:LostInRiverview|<font color="navy">talk</font>]] · [[User_blog:LostInRiverview|<font color="navy">blog</font>]]</sup>''' 05:42, January 21, 2012 (UTC)
 
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{{Asterisk}}''Blows dust off the Development Portal Talk Page''{{Asterisk}}
   
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So, I have no idea where else I would start a discussion related to this. Here goes!
== Quick report script ==
 
   
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As I've been working on the [[Forum:New infobox design|new infobox conversion]], I've started to wonder whether some of our other wiki templates may benefit from a re-working of their existing code. To that end, I took a copy of [[Template:Pagecover]] over to [[w:c:lir-test|my test wiki]] and redesigned it so that the base code for the template is located in MediaWiki:Wikia.css, instead of within the template itself (through in-line css). After a couple hours' worth of work, I think I've got the template fully converted. As far as I can tell, it functions exactly the same as the present Pagecover, save for two deliberate and minor changes. However, I can't be ''totally sure'' that the template does work in 100% of cases, and as {{t|Pagecover}} is used on (by my estimate) about 500 pages on the wiki, I wanted to see if anyone else (''*cough*[[User:Nikel23|Nikel23]]*cough*'') could take a look at the template and css code and see if they could spot any deficiencies or bugs.
I've implemented a system on [[The Sims Wiki:Report|the reports page]] to allow users to easily report a user by typing the user/IP address on the first field, the page that was vandalised, which is an optional requirement - the [[Template:Report|Report template]] has a link to the user's contributions. Finally the reporting user only has to click "Report user" and it's done.
 
   
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Like I said, I'm pretty sure that the template is fully converted, so the css code for the template's functionality has been added to The Sims Wiki's [[MediaWiki:Wikia.css]] page (but not yet added to "[[MediaWiki:Common.css]]"). I have also put the new template code at [[Template:Pagecover/test]] for further experimentation and tweaks. Any assistance that anyone could lend would be appreciated!
The JS used for the system can be found [[User:GEORGIEGIBBONS/QReportAdder.js|here]] with the corresponding removal script (which the form won't work without) can be found [[User:GEORGIEGIBBONS/QReportRemoval.js|here]]. Both of these are listed as "importScript" functions on [[MediaWiki:Common.js]].
 
   
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P.S. the two aforementioned "minor changes" from "old" Pagecover to "new" Pagecover are:
Currently the system is basic and only accommodates a link to one page (with a history link) and no signature from the reporting user. While I do feel that we can live without these, it would be nice if we could try and implement these.
 
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* There is no "''noname''" parameter in the "new" design - in the "old" design, this parameter would stop the header and text from displaying on top of the image, allowing a user to use Pagecover as a sort of "large image frame." (see [[User blog:LostInRiverview/Apartments in The Sims 4: City Living|this blog post of mine]] for a real-world example of this feature in action) In the "new" design, the "''name''" parameter is no longer mandatory and, if left blank, the header and all text will be kept invisible, even if other text parameters are filled in. This change should not affect the appearance of the template in instances where "''noname''" is invoked, since it will be a blank parameter with no built-in functionality; additionally, in those cases, "''name''" already would've been left blank, so the overall effect will be the same either way.
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* There is no "''toc''" parameter in the new design. Anecdotally it seems that the table of contents feature in "old" pagecover is very rarely used, so it seems pointless to include it in the new design.
   
 
Thanks -- '''[[User:LostInRiverview|<span style="color:navy;">LostInRiverview</span>]]<sup> [[User_talk:LostInRiverview|<font color="green">talk</font>]] · [[User_blog:LostInRiverview|<font color="green">blog</font>]] · [[Special:Contributions/LostInRiverview|<font color="green">contribs</font>]]</sup>''' 08:09, February 11, 2018 (UTC)
The scripts/form are still in testing (with the removal script still requiring reports to be manually removed) so if you come across any bugs, feel free to list them down. {{LabSig}} 12:44, April 22, 2012 (UTC)
 
   
== Broken HTML tags ==
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== Families from... ==
   
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I personally think that the Families from categories (ie [[:Category:Families from The Sims 4 (base game)|this category]]) should be renamed into "Households from <nowiki><game> <pack></nowiki>". Since there are households that aren't blood related, such as the [[Roomies household (Sunset Valley)|Roomies household]] and the [[BFF household]]. Other categories including families should also be replaced. Also, they're just officially known as households vs. families. Maybe separate categories could work too.
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| HTML tags, namely <nowiki><choose></nowiki> tags, appear broken.
 
| [[File:Chrome_logo.png|30px|link=wikipedia:Google Chrome|Chrome]] [[File:Mozilla_Firefox_logo.png|30px|link=wikipedia:Mozilla Firefox|Firefox]]
 
| Possibly due to the MediaWiki upgrade/HTML5 switchover
 
|style="width:50px;background-color:#CCFFBB" |Minor
 
| [[File:Icon_yes_check_v.svg|30px|resolved]]
 
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Sorry if this is in the wrong place btw, I'm not really familiar with this wiki. --<span style="color: purple; font-weight:bold; font-family:Tahoma;">[[User:EarthlingnAkumi|<span style="color: purple; font-weight:bold;">'''akumi'''</span>]] [[User talk:EarthlingnAkumi|<span style="color: purple; font-weight:bold;">(talk)</span>]]</span> 16:26, June 8, 2019 (UTC)
So I've noticed that some HTML tags on [[The Sims Wiki:Community Portal|the Community Portal mainpage]] seem to be broken. I noticed that (overnight?) we have been upgraded to [[Special:Version|MediaWiki 1.19]] as part of Wikia's global overhaul. Despite HTML5 having native backwards compatibility with older versions of the HTML standard, [http://community.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:Ohmyn0/Making_your_wiki_HTML5_compliant a lot of tags have become obsolete]. This is noticeable in Chrome and I haven't tried any other browsers. {{LabSig}} 10:22, July 6, 2012 (UTC)
 
:This issue also exists in Firefox, so I've added that to the table. In fact, the page won't even load for me, it dumps me on an error page instead. However, I do know that before the upgrade we were having problems on that page, specifically with the randomized Sim pictures and the <nowiki><choose></nowiki> tags. *edit* If it is those tags, then it's worth mentioning that we use them on other pages as well, including on the Main Page in multiple templates. At last check a couple weeks ago they were still working, but I'll check again. -- '''[[User:LostInRiverview|<font color="navy">LiR</font>]]<sup> [[User_talk:LostInRiverview|<font color="green">speak</font>]] ~ [[User_blog:LostInRiverview|<font color="green">read</font>]]</sup>''' 21:52, July 6, 2012 (UTC)
 
::Yeah I just saw the error message too. Seems like a problem with the MediaWiki installation that's out of our control. I didn't see anything about HTML5 not supporting choose tags so I don't know what Wikia did to them, if anything, though I've noticed that the choose tags still seem to work on a few userpages... {{LabSig}} 22:00, July 6, 2012 (UTC)
 
:::Perhaps there's some other code on that page that conflicts with the tags? I honestly have no idea.-- '''[[User:LostInRiverview|<font color="navy">LiR</font>]]<sup> [[User_talk:LostInRiverview|<font color="green">speak</font>]] ~ [[User_blog:LostInRiverview|<font color="green">read</font>]]</sup>''' 22:07, July 6, 2012 (UTC)
 
::::Update: I get an Internal error every time I try to edit the page, even if I'm trying to remove the tags. My guess is that we're somehow missing the actual problem. Are there any other pages with a similar issue on the wiki? -- '''[[User:LostInRiverview|<font color="navy">LiR</font>]]<sup> [[User_talk:LostInRiverview|<font color="green">speak</font>]] ~ [[User_blog:LostInRiverview|<font color="green">read</font>]]</sup>''' 22:10, July 6, 2012 (UTC)
 
:::::Interestingly I just tried to copy that page to my Sandbox to try and solve the issue without breaking anything else and I got the same "Set $wgShowExceptionDetails = true; at the bottom of LocalSettings.php to show detailed debugging information." error message. I'm yet to encounter any other pages with that issue but I'm now thinking that there is something in the code on that page that Wikia doesn't like. All we can really do is try to find out what but this is weird. {{LabSig}} 22:17, July 6, 2012 (UTC)
 
::::::Update: I've managed to copy the whole page into [[User:GEORGIEGIBBONS/Sandbox|my sandbox]] and it seemed that the Activity Feed HTML tags were causing pretty much every issue, including the internal errors. Everything that's in the Sandbox now (at the time of writing) is working as it should be. For now I've copied my sandbox to the Community Portal mainpage as it seems to be in working order but it's worth keeping an eye on things. {{LabSig}} 22:27, July 6, 2012 (UTC)
 
   
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:That's not a bad suggestion. Unfortunately, it's not simply as easy as renaming a few pages. Categories, unlike articles and templates, cannot be renamed once they are created. In order to do as you've suggested, we'd have to create brand new category pages and then delete the old ones. Even then, this still is not an insurmountable obstacle. What ''would'' be difficult, however, would be the second part of your suggestion; splitting categories. Right now, the template {{t|Infobox family}} auto-categorizes family/household pages, but there is no mechanism built into the template as of now to differentiate between a family and a household. It is possible to create such a thing, but I'd wonder whether the end result is worth the effort. -- '''[[User:LostInRiverview|<span style="color:navy;">LostInRiverview</span>]]<sup> [[User_talk:LostInRiverview|<font color="green">talk</font>]] · [[User_blog:LostInRiverview|<font color="green">blog</font>]] · [[Special:Contributions/LostInRiverview|<font color="green">contribs</font>]]</sup>''' 16:31, June 8, 2019 (UTC)
==Borders on templates rounded vs not rounded==
 
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! Issue || Browsers affected || Cause || Severity || Resolution
 
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| Some templates' corners that were once rounded are now not rounded, while others are.
 
| [[File:Mozilla_Firefox_logo.png|30px|link=wikipedia:Mozilla Firefox|Firefox]] [[File:Chrome logo.png|30px|link=wikipedia:Google Chrome|Google Chrome]]
 
| Presently unknown (Likely MediaWiki update/HTML5 support issue)
 
| style="width:50px;background-color:#CCFFBB" |Minor
 
| [[File:Red_x_cross_uncheck_bad.svg|30px|Not resolved]]
 
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::Hmm, that's fair. --<span style="color: purple; font-weight:bold; font-family:Tahoma;">[[User:EarthlingnAkumi|<span style="color: purple; font-weight:bold;">'''akumi'''</span>]] [[User talk:EarthlingnAkumi|<span style="color: purple; font-weight:bold;">(talk)</span>]]</span> 18:49, June 8, 2019 (UTC)
I'm not sure if it has to do with the recent MediaWiki upgrade, but now some of our templates have lost the 'rounded corners' that they used to have, at least in my browser (Firefox). I've noticed that if I change the template over to use {{t|Parthenon}}, then the problem is fixed, at least for that template (for example, {{t|Nutshell}}). -- '''[[User:LostInRiverview|<font color="navy">LiR</font>]]<sup> [[User_talk:LostInRiverview|<font color="green">speak</font>]] ~ [[User_blog:LostInRiverview|<font color="green">read</font>]]</sup>''' 00:29, July 22, 2012 (UTC)
 
:Added Chrome to that list too. Before going on holiday, I filed a bug report to Wikia as the [[Special:AbuseFilter|Abuse Filter]] seems to be missing the filter navigation bar, the check syntax option is broken and the optional dropdowns were appearing even if they weren't selected. I'm guessing they are to do with the MediaWiki update which pushed HTML5 support, which could have caused the issue here. Sad thing is I don't know any HTML5 :( {{LabSig}} 11:10, July 22, 2012 (UTC)
 
::I think, specifically regarding the template issue, the best thing to do would be to find the un-rounded templates and re-work them so they load directly through transcluding (and not substituting) the Parthenon template. That way as well, if we choose in the future to update Parthenon, all those templates will be auto-updated along with it. -- '''[[User:LostInRiverview|<font color="navy">LiR</font>]]<sup> [[User_talk:LostInRiverview|<font color="green">speak</font>]] ~ [[User_blog:LostInRiverview|<font color="green">read</font>]]</sup>''' 18:25, July 22, 2012 (UTC)
 
   
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==TS4 neighborhood categorizing bug==
:::I've expanded on the above point, in detail...
 
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For awhile now, we've had an issue where TS4 neighborhood pages (not ''world'' pages, but the pages about the neighborhoods within the worlds) were getting categorized into [[:Category:Neighborhoods in]], which is a glitch category. I am happy to say that, with a single exception, that is no longer a problem and all TS4 neighborhood pages should now be automatically categorizing properly.
   
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The issue was in the way that {{t|Infobox neighborhood}} assigned categories. The infobox would take the input name of the neighborhood, and cross-check it against {{t|Checkgame}}; the purpose of that template is to simply say which base game a particular world/neighborhood belongs to. The problem is that Checkgame only included the TS4 worlds, but did not include the TS4 neighborhoods. When I thought about it a bit, I realized that having a template to check which game a neighborhood/world appears in is unnecessary. So I reworked Infobox Neighborhood so that it looks for the game parameter instead of the neighborhood's name, and then checks to see if the game is on the {{t|MGL}}. The MGL outputs a code for the base game, even if the name that is input is an expansion/game/stuff pack, and then I plug that output into {{t|Vgcode}} to spit out the full name of the base game. I did it this way because our current operating principle has been to categorize all neighborhoods/worlds within a given game together, even if some were introduced in expansions (for instance, we don't have a category [[:Category:Neighborhoods in The Sims 2: Seasons]], even though that expansion introduced [[Riverblossom Hills]]).
:::I think it would be best practice, from now on, for the admin team or anyone creating or updating message templates to transclude {{t|Parthenon}} ''directly'' into the template coding. This obviously does not apply to userboxes, main page templates, bio templates, or other templates that wouldn't otherwise use Parthenon.
 
   
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The end result of all these workings is that neighborhood pages for TS4 no longer need to be manually categorized into "Category:Neighborhoods from The Sims 4" or "Category:<world> neighborhoods"; the template will do both automatically. When I get a chance, I'll take a look at {{t|Infobox world}} as well and try to prevent similar problems on that front. My goal is to make it so that {{t|Checkgame}} isn't used on any templates and can be deleted.
:::This has a couple advantages. Firstly, Parthenon appears not to be affected by the aforementioned issue involving non-rounded corners that are affecting some templates following the MediaWiki update. Also, using Parthenon allows a cohesive theme across multiple templates used on the wiki. Using direct linking to Parthenon (by transclusion, not by substitution or 'copy-pasting') has the added benefit of allowing adjustments to the Parthenon ''and all templates that use it'' without needless edits to those individual templates.
 
   
:::I will probably be manually changing over those templates that manually use Parthenon over the next few days, so that they use Parthenon. Most templates by now have been updated to use Parthenon, even if they were created before Parthenon debuted. Any assistance on this project would be appreciated. -- '''[[User:LostInRiverview|<font color="navy">LiR</font>]]<sup> [[User_talk:LostInRiverview|<font color="green">speak</font>]] ~ [[User_blog:LostInRiverview|<font color="green">read</font>]]</sup>''' 04:50, July 25, 2012 (UTC)
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I tested the changes out before I implemented them. While I cannot see any errors in what I've done at this point, if you encounter any problems with the change, please let me know so I can address it. -- '''[[User:LostInRiverview|<span style="color:navy;">LostInRiverview</span>]]<sup> [[User_talk:LostInRiverview|<font color="green">talk</font>]] · [[User_blog:LostInRiverview|<font color="green">blog</font>]] · [[Special:Contributions/LostInRiverview|<font color="green">contribs</font>]]</sup>''' 04:25, June 16, 2019 (UTC)
::::A tip for anyone wishing to help is if you see a squared template and the source code says "-moz-border-radius" and/or "-webkit-border-radius" then it is meant to be rounded. I've just ported the {{t|Info}} template at the top of this page to Parthenon and I'll be on the lookout for more as I see them. Besides, it seems easier to write in Parthenon anyway as the framework is already there and if configured correctly it won't mess up any already existing templates. {{LabSig}} 20:39, July 25, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
== Gallery licensing ==
 
 
It was pointed out by [[User:TheSims23|TheSims23]] that, when users upload images via the gallery button, there is no option to license the images. Currently, one particular user is doing this, which is leaving many newly-uploaded images uncategorized and unlicensed. I have no idea of how to fix this, but could it be something related to Media Wiki? Thank you for reading. --[[User:RoseGui|<span style="color:orange">RoseGui</span>]][[File:Thanks rose.png]] <small>([[User talk:RoseGui|<span style="color:orange">talk here</span>]])</small> 18:24, July 29, 2012 (UTC)
 
:Some time since July 13 or earlier, the issue has already occurred. [http://sims.wikia.com/wiki/User_talk:Woganhemlock?diff=405012&oldid=404773 I told Wogan] about it, but claimed the next day that it had somehow been fixed. Or maybe I was hallucinating at that time, so I just left this issue like this. :/ [[User:Nikel23|'''<span style="color:#007FFF; text-shadow: #ACE5EE 0 4px 4px;">Nikel</span>''']] [[User talk:Nikel23|<span style="color: #30D5C8 ; text-shadow: #00FFEF 0 4px 4px;"><sub>''Talk''</sub></span>]] <sub>–</sub> [[The Sims Wiki:Featured Media/Voting|<span style="color:red ; text-shadow:#E97451 0 4px 4px;"><sub>''Vote!''</sub></span>]] 18:39, July 29, 2012 (UTC)
 
::As far as I know, uploading images via the Gallery/Photo function on the edit page has never included any form of attribution and users haven't compensated by manually licensing their files. Personally I'd like it if uploading via Gallery was removed completely and users either had to use [[Special:Upload]] or [[Special:MultipleUpload]] but unfortunately writing an Abusefilter to stop anyone from using it or using Javascript to block is is ''highly likely'' against Wikia's TOS. {{LabSig}} 19:02, August 18, 2012 (UTC)
 
:::Well, using the add gallery doesn't... but the add photo button actually does. [[User:Nikel23|'''<span style="color:#007FFF; text-shadow: #ACE5EE 0 4px 4px;">Nikel</span>''']] [[User talk:Nikel23|<span style="color: #30D5C8 ; text-shadow: #00FFEF 0 4px 4px;"><sub>''Talk''</sub></span>]] <sub>–</sub> [[The Sims Wiki:Featured Media/Voting|<span style="color:red ; text-shadow:#E97451 0 4px 4px;"><sub>''Vote!''</sub></span>]] 07:35, August 20, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
==Countdown Template Broken==
 
{{DevIssue|Browser=[[File:Mozilla Firefox logo.png|30px|Firefox]][[File:Chrome logo.png|30px|Google Chrome]]|Cause=Unknown, likely Javascript issue|Issue={{t|Countdown}} no longer displays on pages|Severity= Moderate|Resolution= Resolved}}
 
I noticed today that Countdown is no longer functioning. GG says he was editing javascript for the wiki, but he has reverted his edits and the template still doesn't work. I've marked this as a moderate issue due to the fact that this template is heavily-used. -- '''[[User:LostInRiverview|<font color="navy">LiR</font>]]<sup> [[User_talk:LostInRiverview|<font color="green">speak</font>]] ~ [[User_blog:LostInRiverview|<font color="green">read</font>]]</sup>''' 19:05, August 15, 2012 (UTC)
 
:Chrome too. Initially I thought it may have been down to the MediaWiki upgrade but now I'm thinking it may be something else which is specific to TSW. FWIW, the script which I was trying to add came from a wiki using the upgraded version of MW which we also have and where it worked there, it failed here. Granted, the newest version of MediaWiki still has numerous bugs so I'm not sure what the issue ''really'' is but it's rather strange... {{LabSig}} 19:10, August 15, 2012 (UTC)
 
::Odd, It's working now. We'll keep an eye on this. -- '''[[User:LostInRiverview|<font color="navy">LiR</font>]]<sup> [[User_talk:LostInRiverview|<font color="green">speak</font>]] ~ [[User_blog:LostInRiverview|<font color="green">read</font>]]</sup>''' 19:13, August 15, 2012 (UTC)
 
:::I know this seems a bit unrelated but having conducted further tests with JS, it seems there is definitely an issue with adding new JS (like what happened here) and even replacing JS. I've sent a bug report to Wikia to see if there's something up. {{LabSig}} 20:44, August 15, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
==Issues with article naming==
 
''The conversation below has been copied from [[Talk:Downtown (The Sims)]], as it is relevant to multiple articles.''
 
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Personally, I prefer the precision of the title, even if it's not that simple. Still, there are some other pages that are based on this precision as well, such as [[Spells (The Sims: Makin' Magic)]] and [[Spells (The Sims 2: Apartment Life)]], and [[Downtown (The Sims 2: Nightlife)]].
 
 
If we '''had''' to simplify it however, I guess using the title of the EP, e.g. ''Spells (Makin' Magic)'' or ''Downtown (Nightlife)'' sounds better, with the only exceptions to ''Pets'', ''Seasons'', and upcoming ''University'', which the title ''The Sims 2/3:'' should still be kept. [[User:Nikel23|'''<span style="color:#007FFF; text-shadow: #ACE5EE 0 4px 4px;">Nikel</span>''']] [[User talk:Nikel23|<span style="color: #30D5C8 ; text-shadow: #00FFEF 0 4px 4px;"><sub>''Talk''</sub></span>]] <sub>–</sub> [[The Sims Wiki:Featured Media/Voting|<span style="color:red ; text-shadow:#E97451 0 4px 4px;"><sub>''Vote!''</sub></span>]] 15:32, October 11, 2012 (UTC)
 
:I was thinking more about [[Vampire (The Sims 3)]], for example, which technically should be ''Vampire (The Sims 3: Late Night)'' when I moved this page. It seems that the issue of titles in these cases should be decided universally, not just article-by-article. -- '''[[User:LostInRiverview|<font color="navy">LiR</font>]]<sup> [[User_talk:LostInRiverview|<font color="green">speak</font>]] ~ [[User_blog:LostInRiverview|<font color="green">read</font>]]</sup>''' 15:42, October 11, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
:(Added more). Ok, our Manual of Style does touch on this issue a bit:
 
 
<blockquote>Articles should be named in such a way that each has a unique title. Articles' titles usually indicate the name of the topic. When additional precision is necessary to distinguish an article from other uses of the topic name, over-precision should be avoided. This can be done by adding a disambiguating tag in parentheses (or sometimes after a comma); however in certain cases it may be done by choosing a different form of the title in order to achieve uniqueness.</blockquote>
 
 
:Now the unique titles issue is obvious enough and no matter which approach we take, it's apparent that the articles do have different names. My concern with ''Downtown (The Sims: Hot Date)'' (plus the other examples) is that it's overprecise. We generally don't quibble over which expansion introduced a particular feature when we refer to the features included in a particular game, for example on [[Comparison between The Sims, The Sims 2 and The Sims 3]] or similar pages. I think breaking the pages up by base game only is clear and specific enough to meet our needs. -- '''[[User:LostInRiverview|<font color="navy">LiR</font>]]<sup> [[User_talk:LostInRiverview|<font color="green">speak</font>]] ~ [[User_blog:LostInRiverview|<font color="green">read</font>]]</sup>''' 15:49, October 11, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
::Hmm, I see your point. But still, I guess it'd be rather confusing if we say ''Spells (The Sims 2)'' as one might say, "What kind of spells can we cast in TS2?? Oh, it's from Apartment Life..." Okay, I guess I overrated this one example, but perhaps it's still worth pointing out the pack it came from...
 
::I'm thinking we could just omit "The Sims X", though it will be problematic with the similarly-named EPs... [[User:Nikel23|'''<span style="color:#007FFF; text-shadow: #ACE5EE 0 4px 4px;">Nikel</span>''']] [[User talk:Nikel23|<span style="color: #30D5C8 ; text-shadow: #00FFEF 0 4px 4px;"><sub>''Talk''</sub></span>]] <sub>–</sub> [[The Sims Wiki:Featured Media/Voting|<span style="color:red ; text-shadow:#E97451 0 4px 4px;"><sub>''Vote!''</sub></span>]] 16:04, October 11, 2012 (UTC)
 
:::Yeah, I can see that as well. Either way, I'm going to relocate this conversation to [[The Sims Wiki talk:Development Portal]], so we can sort this out wiki-wide. -- '''[[User:LostInRiverview|<font color="navy">LiR</font>]]<sup> [[User_talk:LostInRiverview|<font color="green">speak</font>]] ~ [[User_blog:LostInRiverview|<font color="green">read</font>]]</sup>''' 16:26, October 11, 2012 (UTC)
 
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To boil down what's written above... presently we have multiple pages on our wiki that have the 'same name', like ''[[Downtown]]'' for ''The Sims: Hot Date'' and ''The Sims 2: Nightlife''. In some instances, the articles are given a disambiguating addition which includes the name of the base game and expansion pack (e.g. [[Spells (The Sims: Makin' Magic)]] and [[Spells (The Sims 2: Apartment Life)]]), and in some other instances the names are given for the base game only (e.g. [[Vampire (The Sims 3)]] and simply [[Vampire]]), regardless of whether the feature was introduced in a specific expansion or not.
 
 
We should reach a universal standard for how these articles are named. As I quoted above, the MoS isn't necessarily as specific as needed to resolve this matter; it stipulates that a name should be specific enough to be clear but not over-specific. To that end, I do believe we have three options (please let me know if there's something I'm missing).
 
 
* '''Option 1:''' We rename the articles so they are all listed as "Article name (The Sims #: Expansion Name)". This option is very specific in all cases, but can tend to be somewhat lengthy and can be over-specific in some cases.
 
* '''Option 2:''' We rename the articles so they are listed as "Article name (Expansion Name only)". This option yields a shorter name, except that there are several examples of repeated expansion pack names between two base games, so there would end up being confusion if the same feature were included in both same-named packs.
 
* '''Option 3:''' We rename the articles so they are listed as "Article name (base game name only)". This option is not specific to the expansion pack the feature is introduced in, but creates a short and simple article title.
 
 
Additionally, we could try a hybrid of the options above if we wanted to. -- '''[[User:LostInRiverview|<font color="navy">LiR</font>]]<sup> [[User_talk:LostInRiverview|<font color="green">speak</font>]] ~ [[User_blog:LostInRiverview|<font color="green">read</font>]]</sup>''' 16:26, October 11, 2012 (UTC)
 
:<s>I'd stick with option 2. As for the title with the repeated expansion names, we don't need to stick with the complete "(The Sims 2: Seasons)" for example; we could just use the base game name for that as a shorter alternative. [[User:Nikel23|'''<span style="color:#007FFF; text-shadow: #ACE5EE 0 4px 4px;">Nikel</span>''']] [[User talk:Nikel23|<span style="color: #30D5C8 ; text-shadow: #00FFEF 0 4px 4px;"><sub>''Talk''</sub></span>]] <sub>–</sub> [[The Sims Wiki:Featured Media/Voting|<span style="color:red ; text-shadow:#E97451 0 4px 4px;"><sub>''Vote!''</sub></span>]] 15:10, October 12, 2012 (UTC)</s>
 
::In terms of simplicity, option 2 seems like the best one in my opinion. <font face="Courier (typeface)">[[User:AsherÉire|<font color="#74C365">Asher</font><font color="#FFA700">'''Éire'''</font>]] <small>[[User talk:AsherÉire|I'm a lonely person, so please talk to me...]]</small> </font> 15:23, October 12, 2012 (UTC)
 
:::I would also go with '''Option 2''', because I believe it would make the article name seem less overpowering, in a way, and could even make them look neater. When we run into the problem of expansion packs with the same name as their prequel counterparts, I propose we name them something such as "Article Name (University 2)", and "Article Name (Pets 3)". It's just a thought I had. ~ [[User:Waikikamukow|Waikikamukow]] [ <small>[[User talk:Waikikamukow|Talk]] - [[User blog:Waikikamukow|Blog]] </small> ] - 05:36, October 16, 2012 (UTC)
 
::::'''Option 3''' sounds like the best option to me purely as I can't see EA adding a neighborhood named "Downtown" twice in one generation. Plus, although this is yet to happen, it would avoid the potential dilemma with EP names carried across generations (e.g. Seasons, Pets) featuring neighborhoods with the same name (like Downtown). {{LabSig}} 19:30, October 16, 2012 (UTC)
 
:::::If potential EP names get used the second time is to be considered, I'd like to see until ''The Sims 3: University'' is officially announced... I really wish EA would've had a cleverer name for that! [[User:Nikel23|'''<span style="color:#007FFF; text-shadow: #ACE5EE 0 4px 4px;">Nikel</span>''']] [[User talk:Nikel23|<span style="color: #30D5C8 ; text-shadow: #00FFEF 0 4px 4px;"><sub>''Talk''</sub></span>]] <sub>–</sub> [[The Sims Wiki:Featured Media/Voting|<span style="color:red ; text-shadow:#E97451 0 4px 4px;"><sub>''Vote!''</sub></span>]] 12:41, October 18, 2012 (UTC)
 
I've been rethinking all along... and I changed my mind for '''Option 3'''. I think we need to put more simplicity on that. [[User:Nikel23|'''<span style="color:#007FFF; text-shadow: #ACE5EE 0 4px 4px;">Nikel</span>''']] [[User talk:Nikel23|<span style="color: #30D5C8 ; text-shadow: #00FFEF 0 4px 4px;"><sub>''Talk''</sub></span>]] <sub>–</sub> [[The Sims Wiki:Featured Media/Voting|<span style="color:red ; text-shadow:#E97451 0 4px 4px;"><sub>''Vote!''</sub></span>]] 08:45, February 20, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
==Problem with references?==
 
It appears that, while reference-links are going to the proper reference, the links from the reference back to the main text are all going to the first reference in the article. Has anyone else noticed this? [[User:Dharden|Dharden]] ([[User_talk:Dharden|talk]]) 00:15, November 19, 2012 (UTC)
 
:Hmm, you're right. I noticed that glitch while cleaning up some broken references, and I thought that was what caused it. Apparently it only happens to the reference that's only used once. Named references that's used multiple times aren't affected, and seem to work properly though. I assume it's wiki-wide bug? [[User:Nikel23|'''<span style="color:#007FFF; text-shadow: #ACE5EE 0 4px 4px;">Nikel</span>''']] [[User talk:Nikel23|<span style="color: #30D5C8 ; text-shadow: #00FFEF 0 4px 4px;"><sub>''Talk''</sub></span>]] <sub>–</sub> [[The Sims Wiki:Featured Media/Voting|<span style="color:red ; text-shadow:#E97451 0 4px 4px;"><sub>''Vote!''</sub></span>]] 14:51, November 20, 2012 (UTC)
 
::Yes, named references used multiple times aren't affected, but named references only used once are. I tested this with [[Aspiration benefit]]. I'm not sure if it's wiki-wide -- or Wikia-wide. [[User:Dharden|Dharden]] ([[User_talk:Dharden|talk]]) 15:14, November 20, 2012 (UTC)
 
:::Perhaps we could contact a staff if this problem persists...? Frankly, I'm a little bugged with the change on viewing revision comparison. It used to be full-page wide, but now the width is the same as regular page view. There are just some times when we need to see how the page looks like in a full-page width. [[User:Nikel23|'''<span style="color:#007FFF; text-shadow: #ACE5EE 0 4px 4px;">Nikel</span>''']] [[User talk:Nikel23|<span style="color: #30D5C8 ; text-shadow: #00FFEF 0 4px 4px;"><sub>''Talk''</sub></span>]] <sub>–</sub> [[The Sims Wiki:Featured Media/Voting|<span style="color:red ; text-shadow:#E97451 0 4px 4px;"><sub>''Vote!''</sub></span>]] 15:29, November 20, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
== Mosaic header issues ==
 
 
From [http://community.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:DaNASCAT/Technical_Update:_November_27,_2012 this tech blog], it seems that Wikia have killed the CSS module known as "WikiHeaderRestyle" and replaced it with just "WikiHeader". I've gone ahead and made the changes accordingly to restore the mosaic but it's come at a price: the translucent tab background which was present before now ceases to exist, causing the non-highlighted/selected text to be possibly difficult to read for some users. I don't know how to reapply the background as that was part of WikiHeaderRestyle but if anyone has any ideas of solving this then please fire away. {{LabSig}} 22:03, November 28, 2012 (UTC)
 
:I'm not sure if this has to do with what you just did, or with the Wikia update, but the topnav menu has a visible break between the tabs and the dropdown menu, when you're on [[Special:Recentchanges]]. -- '''[[User:LostInRiverview|<font color="navy">LiR</font>]]<sup> [[User_talk:LostInRiverview|<font color="green">speak</font>]] ~ [[User_blog:LostInRiverview|<font color="green">read</font>]]</sup>''' 23:29, November 28, 2012 (UTC)
 
::I don't know what happened here as now everything is back to normal.
 
 
::<s>As for the break between Topnav and the mosaic, Wikia added that in their recent skin update which added the extra width to the skin. It's used for ad space.</s> {{LabSig}} 20:00, November 29, 2012 (UTC)
 
:::Disregard that last part, I've just noticed what it really is and I'm assuming this has something to do with Wikia's CSS changes. {{LabSig}} 20:21, November 29, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
==Facebook 'Like box' is missing==
 
{{DevIssue|Browser=|Cause=Unknown|Issue=Facebook 'like box', displayed on the Main Page, Community Corner, etc. no longer appears, despite the Facebook page still existing.|Severity= Minor|Resolution= Not Resolved}}
 
I've marked this issue as 'minor' since it doesn't impede the function of the Wiki. However, I don't foresee any growth in the Facebook page until that box is returned to working order. I wanted to bring this to everyone's attention; I would attempt to fix it now but I need sleep, and I probably won't be online much tomorrow to fix it either. Post here if the box still appears for you, or add your browser to the template above if it doesn't appear to you. -- '''[[User:LostInRiverview|<font color="navy">LiR</font>]]<sup> [[User_talk:LostInRiverview|<font color="green">speak</font>]] ~ [[User_blog:LostInRiverview|<font color="green">read</font>]]</sup>''' 09:36, December 29, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
== Zombie Skin ==
 
 
('''Note:''' This was originally posted by [[User:Tiezel|Tiezel]] in [[Talk:Skin]]. [[User:Dharden|Dharden]] ([[User_talk:Dharden|talk]]))
 
 
Not sure if this is the right place to post this, but I was wondering why there was no zombie skin for ''[[The Sims 2]]''in the {{t|Sim}} templates. Probably because there are no pre-made zombies? Does it make sense to put it in there? (for the fanons I guess).
 
 
The icon in-game shows somehow the University logo, so I also uploaded one without the logo.
 
 
[[Image:ZombieSkin.png]]
 
[[Image:Zombie II.png]]
 
 
[[User:Tiezel|Tiezel]] ([[User talk:Tiezel|talk]]) 13:27, March 7, 2013 (UTC)
 
:Never really paid attention to this. Seeing that there's no good reason why not to include it, I think it can be added in the template for fanon purposes. [[User:Nikel23|'''<span style="color:#007FFF; text-shadow: #ACE5EE 0 4px 4px;">Nikel</span>''']] [[User talk:Nikel23|<span style="color: #30D5C8 ; text-shadow: #00FFEF 0 4px 4px;"><sub>''Talk''</sub></span>]] <sub>–</sub> [[The Sims Wiki:Featured Media/Voting|<span style="color:red ; text-shadow:#E97451 0 4px 4px;"><sub>''Vote!''</sub></span>]] 15:30, March 7, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
==Forums broken==
 
{{DevIssue|Browser=|Cause=Unknown|Issue=Forums do not display correctly, due to a presently unknown coding issue.|Severity= Major|Resolution= Not Resolved}}
 
I know very little about the cause of this problem... but I'm hoping someone here does know about it. -- '''[[User:LostInRiverview|<font color="navy">LostInRiverview</font>]]<sup> [[User_talk:LostInRiverview|<font color="green">talk</font>]] ~ [[User_blog:LostInRiverview|<font color="green">blog</font>]]</sup>''' 18:32, March 7, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
:I'm seeing "Invalid tag extension name: forum". I suppose it couldn't hurt to ask Wikia staff if they changed something. [[User:Dharden|Dharden]] ([[User_talk:Dharden|talk]]) 18:38, March 7, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
::I'm not really experiencing any issues... [[User:Cavia porcellus|<font face="candara" size="3"><span style="color:turquoise;">'''Cavia'''</span></font>]] <small>(<font face="candara">[[User_talk:Cavia porcellus|<span style="color:lime;">'''wheek'''</span>]] • </font> <font face="candara">[[User_blog:Cavia porcellus|<span style="color:pink;">'''speak'''</span>]]</font>)</small> 18:40, March 7, 2013 (UTC)
 
:::Ok, now it looks normal for me. It might've been a temporary bug. -- '''[[User:LostInRiverview|<font color="navy">LostInRiverview</font>]]<sup> [[User_talk:LostInRiverview|<font color="green">talk</font>]] ~ [[User_blog:LostInRiverview|<font color="green">blog</font>]]</sup>''' 18:42, March 7, 2013 (UTC)
 
::::I didn't notice anything across Chrome, IE and Safari (iOS), so chances are it's either a caching issue or Wikia messing around with code...again... {{LabSig}} 18:51, March 7, 2013 (UTC)
 
:::::Back to normal in Opera as well. [[User:Dharden|Dharden]] ([[User_talk:Dharden|talk]]) 19:01, March 7, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
== Introducing Wikipedia's Three Revert Rule ==
 
 
''Moved discussion to [[Forum:Introducing Wikipedia's Three Revert Rule]]'' - '''[[User:LostInRiverview|<font color="navy">LostInRiverview</font>]]<sup> [[User_talk:LostInRiverview|<font color="green">talk</font>]] ~ [[User_blog:LostInRiverview|<font color="green">blog</font>]]</sup>''' 21:26, April 8, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
== Game guides/Tutorials broken ==
 
 
{{DevIssue|Browser=[[File:Mozilla Firefox logo.png|30px|Mozilla Firefox]] [[File:Chrome logo.png|30px|Google Chrome]][[File:Opera logo.png|30px|Opera]]|Cause=Mis-configuration related to namespace name change|Issue=Game guides/tutorials are broken|Severity= Major|Resolution= Resolved}}
 
So if anybody has noticed, the content pages for Game guides/tutorials appear to be missing yet categories are listing the articles as are user contributions. I'm using Google Chrome and it appears to be a serious issue for me. I'll bring this up here to see if anybody else can confirm if they're having the same issues before it's reported to Wikia. It's likely a MediaWiki code issue but it doesn't hurt to investigate deeper. {{LabSig}} 18:47, May 22, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
: Odd. I'm having the same issue, and I use Firefox. [http://gyazo.com/dfea8e385b10f9d9a62dd1244582720c Here's an example] of what I'm getting. [[User:Cavia porcellus|<font face="candara" size="3"><span style="color:turquoise;">'''Cavia'''</span></font>]] <small>(<font face="candara">[[User_talk:Cavia porcellus|<span style="color:lime;">'''wheek'''</span>]] • </font> <font face="candara">[[User_blog:Cavia porcellus|<span style="color:pink;">'''speak'''</span>]]</font>)</small> 19:23, May 22, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
::I'm seeing the same thing with Opera. [[User:Dharden|Dharden]] ([[User_talk:Dharden|talk]]) 19:52, May 22, 2013 (UTC)
 
::ETA: It appears to be working if "Game guide:" is used, but not if "Tutorial:" is used. [[User:Dharden|Dharden]] ([[User_talk:Dharden|talk]]) 20:00, May 22, 2013 (UTC)
 
:::Yeah just as I was about to contact Wikia, I've noticed it appears to have fixed itself. Initially it wasn't showing as "Game guide" either. I guess it's time for the cleanup task. {{LabSig}} 20:02, May 22, 2013 (UTC)
 
::::I knew about this issue yesterday and sent a contact to Wikia Staff. Their reply: "Sorry about that. Slight misonfig on my part. Should be cleared up now.". So, aside from the necessary fixing of redlinks associated with the namespace rename, the issue of the missing pages should now be resolved. -- '''[[User:LostInRiverview|<font color="navy">LostInRiverview</font>]]<sup> [[User_talk:LostInRiverview|<font color="green">talk</font>]] ~ [[User_blog:LostInRiverview|<font color="green">blog</font>]]</sup>''' 20:18, May 22, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
==Sims from The Urbz (console)/(handheld) category==
 
No matter how I tried, I couldn't make automatic categorization for Urbz in specific game. Inputting ''The Urbz: Sims in the City'' with or without the ''(handheld)'' is pointless since it will just categorize the Urb to [[:Category:Sims from The Urbz]], while I need them to be categorized in either [[:Category:Sims from The Urbz (console)|console]] or [[:Category:Sims from The Urbz (handheld)|handheld]]. This leaves us to categorize them manually. This is pretty old, I know, and we may not even need it anymore, but this is annoying and frustrating. I tried to change or remove the cases in {{T|GetGameCat}} to no avail. I tried looking at {{T|Urb}}, {{T|Sim}}, and {{T|Vgcoderev}}, but nothing changes such behavior in these templates. [[User:Nikel23|'''<span style="color:#007FFF; text-shadow: #ACE5EE 0 4px 4px;">Nikel</span>''']] [[User talk:Nikel23|<span style="color: #30D5C8 ; text-shadow: #00FFEF 0 4px 4px;"><sub>''Talk''</sub></span>]] <sub>–</sub> [[The Sims Wiki:Featured Media/Voting|<span style="color:red ; text-shadow:#E97451 0 4px 4px;"><sub>''Vote!''</sub></span>]] 04:01, September 9, 2013 (UTC)
 
:In fact, I feel like the template is somehow broken for no reason. I changed the categorization from "Category:Sims from The Sims 3 (NDS)" to "Category:Sims from The Sims 3 (Nintendo DS)", but it can't be changed in any way when applied to Sim articles. I don't suppose it's because of my browser cache, but normally the change will work by using preview while editing the page. In this case, it won't, and it's been days since the template was changed. [[User:Nikel23|'''<span style="color:#007FFF; text-shadow: #ACE5EE 0 4px 4px;">Nikel</span>''']] [[User talk:Nikel23|<span style="color: #30D5C8 ; text-shadow: #00FFEF 0 4px 4px;"><sub>''Talk''</sub></span>]] <sub>–</sub> [[The Sims Wiki:Featured Media/Voting|<span style="color:red ; text-shadow:#E97451 0 4px 4px;"><sub>''Vote!''</sub></span>]] 18:44, September 10, 2013 (UTC)
 
::I've found the culprit. The {{T|GetGameCat}} conversed the input from {{T|Vgcode}}. This enforced ''The Urbz'' input into just ''The Urbz: Sims in the City'' since it generalizes both console and handheld version into one category, while in many instances, they're actually distinct. I've changed this so both games have their own Vgcode now.
 
 
::Also, I've found strange behavior on GetGameCat. Instead of looking for the existing cases on the template, it looks on the default case instead (at the bottom of the list) which converses the input from {{T|Vgcoderev}} (The Vgcoderev for TS3NDS was wrong. I've changed it). If the game isn't listed in Vgcoderev, then it will use the one in GetGameCat. I recall this was the case for ''The Sims 3: Seasons'' back then. This is odd, and I think this should be noted, considering default case is supposed to be used last in such template. [[User:Nikel23|'''<span style="color:#007FFF; text-shadow: #ACE5EE 0 4px 4px;">Nikel</span>''']] [[User talk:Nikel23|<span style="color: #30D5C8 ; text-shadow: #00FFEF 0 4px 4px;"><sub>''Talk''</sub></span>]] <sub>–</sub> [[The Sims Wiki:Featured Media/Voting|<span style="color:red ; text-shadow:#E97451 0 4px 4px;"><sub>''Vote!''</sub></span>]] 05:09, September 11, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
=={{T|Era}} not displaying==
 
{| class="wikitable"
 
|-
 
! Issue !! Browsers affected !! Cause !! Severity !! Resolution
 
|-
 
| Era templates are not displaying despite they are already placed in their respective pages (The templates somehow only appear properly in page covers).
 
| [[File:Mozilla_Firefox_logo.png|30px|link=wikipedia:Firefox]] [[File:Chrome logo.png|30px|link=wikipedia:Google Chrome]] [[File:Opera logo.png|30px|link=wikipedia:Opera (browser)]]
 
| Unknown
 
|style="width:50px;background-color:#CCFFBB" |Minor
 
| [[File:Red x cross uncheck bad.svg|30px|Unresolved]]
 
|}
 
 
This issue seems have been a long while, but honestly I have no idea why they're still not displaying at all. --[[User:Frostwalker|<font face="Verdana" color="RoyalBlue">'''Frostwalker'''</font>]] <sup>[[User talk:Frostwalker|<font face="Comic Sans MS" color="DarkOrange">Talk to me!</font>]]</sup> 08:00, October 13, 2013 (UTC)
 
:Also confirmed in Chrome. -- '''[[User:LostInRiverview|<font color="navy">LostInRiverview</font>]]<sup> [[User_talk:LostInRiverview|<font color="green">talk</font>]] ~ [[User_blog:LostInRiverview|<font color="green">blog</font>]]</sup>''' 12:12, October 13, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
::I suspect it was caused by [[w:c:community:User_blog:Kirkburn/Technical_Update:_October_1,_2013|Wikia update on October 1st]], when the show/hide button on tables was broken, but I'm not sure. The date just coincided. [[User:Nikel23|'''<span style="color:#007FFF; text-shadow: #ACE5EE 0 4px 4px;">Nikel</span>''']] [[User talk:Nikel23|<span style="color: #30D5C8 ; text-shadow: #00FFEF 0 4px 4px;"><sub>''Talk''</sub></span>]] <sub>–</sub> [[The Sims Wiki:Featured Media/Voting|<span style="color:red ; text-shadow:#E97451 0 4px 4px;"><sub>''Vote!''</sub></span>]] 12:43, October 14, 2013 (UTC)
 
:::I remember seeing them more recently. Since Wikia does a weekly update (on Wednesdays), my guess is that it would be the October 9th update that caused the issue. - '''[[User:LostInRiverview|<font color="navy">LostInRiverview</font>]]<sup> [[User_talk:LostInRiverview|<font color="green">talk</font>]] ~ [[User_blog:LostInRiverview|<font color="green">blog</font>]]</sup>''' 17:13, October 14, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
::::I'm positively sure it was since October 1st. That was before I tried to fix the broken show/hide button on the tables on October 5th. Both happened at the same time. [[User:Nikel23|'''<span style="color:#007FFF; text-shadow: #ACE5EE 0 4px 4px;">Nikel</span>''']] [[User talk:Nikel23|<span style="color: #30D5C8 ; text-shadow: #00FFEF 0 4px 4px;"><sub>''Talk''</sub></span>]] <sub>–</sub> [[The Sims Wiki:Featured Media/Voting|<span style="color:red ; text-shadow:#E97451 0 4px 4px;"><sub>''Vote!''</sub></span>]] 12:42, October 19, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
:::::Still broken as of November 18th. Also confirmed with Opera 12.16. Not moved on to the Chromium-based versions, but I suspect that anything which affects Chrome would also affect them. [[User:Dharden|Dharden]] ([[User_talk:Dharden|talk]]) 21:12, November 18, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
::::::Perhaps we could do something with the .css that may fix the issue, but I'm not sure what to do since I know nothing about .css. [[User:Nikel23|'''<span style="color:#007FFF; text-shadow: #ACE5EE 0 4px 4px;">Nikel</span>''']] [[User talk:Nikel23|<span style="color: #30D5C8 ; text-shadow: #00FFEF 0 4px 4px;"><sub>''Talk''</sub></span>]] <sub>–</sub> [[The Sims Wiki:Featured Media/Voting|<span style="color:red ; text-shadow:#E97451 0 4px 4px;"><sub>''Vote!''</sub></span>]] 17:30, November 19, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
==Broken [[Special:AdminDashboard|Admin Dashboard]]==
 
The content of [[Special:AdminDashboard|Admin Dashboard]] seems to be pushed down below the quick stats on the side. It's been like this for the past few days. Not sure what caused this, though I'd blame Wikia's technical update, either on October 8 or 15. [[User:Nikel23|'''<span style="color:#007FFF; text-shadow: #ACE5EE 0 4px 4px;">Nikel</span>''']] [[User talk:Nikel23|<span style="color: #30D5C8 ; text-shadow: #00FFEF 0 4px 4px;"><sub>''Talk''</sub></span>]] <sub>–</sub> [[The Sims Wiki:Featured Media/Voting|<span style="color:red ; text-shadow:#E97451 0 4px 4px;"><sub>''Vote!''</sub></span>]] 12:42, October 19, 2013 (UTC)
 
:Confirmed. I just noticed that. --[[User:Frostwalker|<font face="Verdana" color="RoyalBlue">'''Frostwalker'''</font>]] <sup>[[User talk:Frostwalker|<font face="Comic Sans MS" color="DarkOrange">Talk to me!</font>]]</sup> 12:44, October 19, 2013 (UTC)
 
::Some time recently, this issue has been fixed without notice. [[User:Nikel23|'''<span style="color:#007FFF; text-shadow: #ACE5EE 0 4px 4px;">Nikel</span>''']] [[User talk:Nikel23|<span style="color: #30D5C8 ; text-shadow: #00FFEF 0 4px 4px;"><sub>''Talk''</sub></span>]] <sub>–</sub> [[The Sims Wiki:Featured Media/Voting|<span style="color:red ; text-shadow:#E97451 0 4px 4px;"><sub>''Vote!''</sub></span>]] 16:22, October 26, 2013 (UTC)
 
 
==[[:Category:Sims who use a broken face template]]==
 
I have created [[:Category:Sims who use a broken face template]] for Sims from ''The Sims 2'' who use one of the "broken" Maxis face templates. There appear to be enough of them to make a category useful. [[User:Dharden|Dharden]] ([[User_talk:Dharden|talk]]) 14:57, December 25, 2013 (UTC)
 

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Giving TS4 Headshots Black Background

Is it an idea, that like the TS2 headshots and the TS3 headshots to give all TS4 headshots a black background as well? It might not be necessary, but it gives the wikia a consistent look doesn't it? I'd like to hear your thoughts DeSims (talk) 19:59, September 19, 2017 (UTC)

Updating {{Pagecover}}

*Blows dust off the Development Portal Talk Page*

So, I have no idea where else I would start a discussion related to this. Here goes!

As I've been working on the new infobox conversion, I've started to wonder whether some of our other wiki templates may benefit from a re-working of their existing code. To that end, I took a copy of Template:Pagecover over to my test wiki and redesigned it so that the base code for the template is located in MediaWiki:Wikia.css, instead of within the template itself (through in-line css). After a couple hours' worth of work, I think I've got the template fully converted. As far as I can tell, it functions exactly the same as the present Pagecover, save for two deliberate and minor changes. However, I can't be totally sure that the template does work in 100% of cases, and as {{Pagecover}} is used on (by my estimate) about 500 pages on the wiki, I wanted to see if anyone else (*cough*Nikel23*cough*) could take a look at the template and css code and see if they could spot any deficiencies or bugs.

Like I said, I'm pretty sure that the template is fully converted, so the css code for the template's functionality has been added to The Sims Wiki's MediaWiki:Wikia.css page (but not yet added to "MediaWiki:Common.css"). I have also put the new template code at Template:Pagecover/test for further experimentation and tweaks. Any assistance that anyone could lend would be appreciated!

P.S. the two aforementioned "minor changes" from "old" Pagecover to "new" Pagecover are:

  • There is no "noname" parameter in the "new" design - in the "old" design, this parameter would stop the header and text from displaying on top of the image, allowing a user to use Pagecover as a sort of "large image frame." (see this blog post of mine for a real-world example of this feature in action) In the "new" design, the "name" parameter is no longer mandatory and, if left blank, the header and all text will be kept invisible, even if other text parameters are filled in. This change should not affect the appearance of the template in instances where "noname" is invoked, since it will be a blank parameter with no built-in functionality; additionally, in those cases, "name" already would've been left blank, so the overall effect will be the same either way.
  • There is no "toc" parameter in the new design. Anecdotally it seems that the table of contents feature in "old" pagecover is very rarely used, so it seems pointless to include it in the new design.

Thanks -- LostInRiverview talk · blog · contribs 08:09, February 11, 2018 (UTC)

Families from...

I personally think that the Families from categories (ie this category) should be renamed into "Households from <game> <pack>". Since there are households that aren't blood related, such as the Roomies household and the BFF household. Other categories including families should also be replaced. Also, they're just officially known as households vs. families. Maybe separate categories could work too.

Sorry if this is in the wrong place btw, I'm not really familiar with this wiki. --akumi (talk) 16:26, June 8, 2019 (UTC)

That's not a bad suggestion. Unfortunately, it's not simply as easy as renaming a few pages. Categories, unlike articles and templates, cannot be renamed once they are created. In order to do as you've suggested, we'd have to create brand new category pages and then delete the old ones. Even then, this still is not an insurmountable obstacle. What would be difficult, however, would be the second part of your suggestion; splitting categories. Right now, the template {{Infobox family}} auto-categorizes family/household pages, but there is no mechanism built into the template as of now to differentiate between a family and a household. It is possible to create such a thing, but I'd wonder whether the end result is worth the effort. -- LostInRiverview talk · blog · contribs 16:31, June 8, 2019 (UTC)
Hmm, that's fair. --akumi (talk) 18:49, June 8, 2019 (UTC)

TS4 neighborhood categorizing bug

For awhile now, we've had an issue where TS4 neighborhood pages (not world pages, but the pages about the neighborhoods within the worlds) were getting categorized into Category:Neighborhoods in, which is a glitch category. I am happy to say that, with a single exception, that is no longer a problem and all TS4 neighborhood pages should now be automatically categorizing properly.

The issue was in the way that {{Infobox neighborhood}} assigned categories. The infobox would take the input name of the neighborhood, and cross-check it against {{Checkgame}}; the purpose of that template is to simply say which base game a particular world/neighborhood belongs to. The problem is that Checkgame only included the TS4 worlds, but did not include the TS4 neighborhoods. When I thought about it a bit, I realized that having a template to check which game a neighborhood/world appears in is unnecessary. So I reworked Infobox Neighborhood so that it looks for the game parameter instead of the neighborhood's name, and then checks to see if the game is on the {{MGL}}. The MGL outputs a code for the base game, even if the name that is input is an expansion/game/stuff pack, and then I plug that output into {{Vgcode}} to spit out the full name of the base game. I did it this way because our current operating principle has been to categorize all neighborhoods/worlds within a given game together, even if some were introduced in expansions (for instance, we don't have a category Category:Neighborhoods in The Sims 2: Seasons, even though that expansion introduced Riverblossom Hills).

The end result of all these workings is that neighborhood pages for TS4 no longer need to be manually categorized into "Category:Neighborhoods from The Sims 4" or "Category:<world> neighborhoods"; the template will do both automatically. When I get a chance, I'll take a look at {{Infobox world}} as well and try to prevent similar problems on that front. My goal is to make it so that {{Checkgame}} isn't used on any templates and can be deleted.

I tested the changes out before I implemented them. While I cannot see any errors in what I've done at this point, if you encounter any problems with the change, please let me know so I can address it. -- LostInRiverview talk · blog · contribs 04:25, June 16, 2019 (UTC)