The Sims Wiki:Requests for administratorship/C.Syde65 (February 2015)

Nomination

C.Syde65 (talk · contribs · editcount · block · modify rights · logs · block log)

I, former administrator Asorailahd, nominate C.Syde65 for adminship. C.Syde65's last request was denied in June 2014. Since then, I've felt he has progressed considerably and his wiki skills have thrived. C.Syde has consistently noted his faults and is quickly able to rebound from these situations. He's incredibly dedicated to wiki and has become engrossed into the technical side of website as well. C.Syde is gregarious, charismatic, and helpful member of the community. C.Syde is, of my opinion, completely qualified for this position. Ѧüя◎ґ (talk) 16:30, February 1, 2015 (UTC)

This nomination is made by a user in good standing, and the nominee is eligible to be nominated. This nomination is therefore valid and awaits a response from the nominee. - LostInRiverview ^{talk • blog • contribs} 16:36, February 1, 2015 (UTC)

Thanks Auror for nominating me. I’m happy to accept this nomination, because I have worked hard to address the concerns that were raised by users in response to my first RfA. I feel I have significantly improved my editing skills since then, and an examination of my recent editing history will support this.

A key reason for my improved editing is that I now take the time to think my edits through carefully rather than racing to post edits. I now use the 'preview' and 'show changes' buttons before publishing, and also bear in mind the need to keep a level head when editing to avoid editing when hyped up. I use these techniques to try and ensure that I make all the changes needed in the first edit, which avoids having to alter my edits and then republish. This also helps me avoid the creation of edit conflicts, especially in community discussion.

I am learning which areas of the wiki I am best suited to contribute to. After a minor incident that happened in chat, less than a month ago, I feel that the best practise for me is to refrain from trying to answer technical questions raised by inexperienced users in chat. This is because to date I have not been particularly good at answering technical questions in chat as I have trouble ensuring I take the time needed to fully comprehend what has been asked, and therefore do not always give an adequate answer. I managed to settle the minor incident that occurred in chat by apologizing to the inexperienced user via private message, and fortunately the inexperienced user did not seem perturbed by any misunderstanding I may have caused.

I have recently learned from a minor incident where I gave a level 1 warning to a good faith editor. I replaced the warning with a friendly reminder and will be careful not repeat this mistake.

I feel confident with blocking vandals that have already been issued a minimum of three warnings, and have not shown any signs of improvement. In the case where I suspect potential sock-puppetry I will not make accusations without solid evidence to confirm this is the case. As a new administrator I recognise I have limited experience in this area and would discuss my concerns with an experienced administrator rather than taking action on my own.

If I notice a page that has been nominated for deletion I will check for any articles that link to the page before deleting it. I will make room for community consensus before deleting a page if there is content on the page that was made in good faith.

While I have very little experience inside the media-wiki namespace (particularly with respect to JS and CSS), I doubt that I’ll need to make any edits there, at least not significant ones, so I will ensure I don’t mess up how the wiki functions.

I feel that the above are good reasons for accepting my RfA and am happy to respond to any queries or feedback given to my application.

-- C.Syde (talk | contribs) 06:10, February 3, 2015 (UTC)

No issues with this nomination so I'm opening it up. On that note, let's begin! ―ฬђ ^talk 06:24, February 3, 2015 (UTC)

Discussion

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​Support! "I've felt he has progressed considerably and his wiki skills have thrived. C.Syde has consistently noted his faults and is quickly able to rebound from these situations. He's incredibly dedicated to wiki and has become engrossed into the technical side of website as well. C.Syde is gregarious, charismatic, and helpful member of the community. C.Syde is, of my opinion, completely qualified for this position." Same here!  thatKitten ^{come and chat!} 07:20, February 3, 2015 (UTC)

Oppose - I don't really think you're ready for it. Your last RfA was held when I was busy with schoolwork and as such I may have some slight errors in here somewhere in regards to that but while I see you've been working hard to fix the issues raised in the last one I still do see you make some mistakes. For instance I've noticed you've trying to work on distinguishing good faith/bad faith edits but there is occasionally issues such as this, this and recently this which make me question your judgment somewhat, which in turn makes me concerned about what you would do if granted these rights.

Another thing which I've noticed is, for lack of a better term, "desperateness to edit". While there's probably a better way to put this the point is that sometimes it looks to me as if you edit just for the sake of bumping up your edit count. I don't know if this is actually the case but things like this and this concern me since it seems like you're just forgoing common sense out of boredom.

The last thing I wish to add is something that was brought to my attention by someone a while ago, and I do apologize if I sound rude but at some times it seems as if you sometimes ignore the advice you've been given, in that it seems as if you keep repeating the same mistakes. I'd highly recommend re-reading this message as I feel that while it is a couple of months old it is very much still relevant.

I'm not going to post anything else as I do believe that is all that I need to say and I'm not going to dig through the archives as I don't like holding someone's actions in the distant past against them. Furthermore, I don't want to be too negative as I would like for you to take something out of this. I respect your dedication and the hard work you've done but I really think you'd benefit from just backing off, at least a little. If you have doubts about something that isn't obvious vandalism, ask someone, and you'll learn. Your questions to me about mediawiki and the like both here and on IRC show to me that you want to get better or at the very least you're interested in how the wiki works, either way I see this as a good thing. I'm really happy to see that you're working hard, and it is my belief that if you keep working hard you will get there in the end. If you take into consideration what I've posted I would be happy to support next time, but for now, I can't. ―ฬђ ^talk 08:28, February 3, 2015 (UTC)

Oppose: I don't seem you're ready for it yet. WH has voiced his concerns and I don't really have much to add on to what he said, given that I share his opinion on this matter. Maybe after you work on the issues raised by him, it will work out. DanPin • talk • contribs 12:08, February 3, 2015 (UTC)

Comment: At this point I'm not ready to say whether I support this promotion or not. I think WH raises valid points, but I can say first-hand that C.syde has definitely improved as an editor. You also can't question his dedication to the wiki, and that's something worthy of consideration. My main issue, and the real obstacle in the way of my support here, is C.Syde's difficulty in learning certain things and fully understanding the rules and practices of the wiki. Ultimately, it's a mistake to expect admin applicants to be fully polished before promotion, but I'm unsure whether this nominee makes the cut at the moment. LostInRiverview ^{talk • blog • contribs} 16:34, February 3, 2015 (UTC)

Oppose Well, as everyone will probably be wondering why, here's my explanation. Firstly, this oppose is not aimed towards editing activity. Rather, it is intended as a courtesy to the nominee to alleviate the tension felt by many members of the community. This oppose is aimed at behavior outside the editor window. An administrator must not only be a great editor, but they must be liked by the community as well. Tensions will flair if a disliked administrator is promoted, even if their editing was prolific and they had the knowledge of the tools and on handling disputes. This does not come from my end, but from the voices of the rest of the community. Many have both publicly and privately expressed concern over C.Syde's repeated behavior in both Wikia chat and IRC. Some issues include making completely random, immature comments and constantly talking about his adminship. Many persons, myself included, admit that they found this behavior very annoying. In my own, very honest, no-nonsense opinion, this is a barrier to adminship, as administrators are not only expected to be mature in the editing field, but in the chilled, relaxed environment of chat. Even though you're relaxed, you must still be mature enough not to act like a 12-year old sometimes, which can leave a poor impression on The Sims Wiki's administrators and community. Remember that Wikia chat has a short scrollback that's public, so any ridiculous comments you make will be noticed by newcomers and chat frequenters alike. This dislike the community expresses is the reason why I am opposing this request for now. As DanPin said on IRC: "a good admin also needs to be liked within the community [...] otherwise they won't be able to exert their authority". I do apologize if this felt like an anvil dropping on you, but alas, as RfA is serious business and I never lie in an RfA solely to please or express favoritism, this is the God-honest truth I can provide. --I am k6ka ^{Talk to me!} _{See what I have done} 17:38, February 3, 2015 (UTC)

Neutral - Under the circumstances, I find myself in-between support and oppose, almost in perfect balance. You're a strong and compassionate editor, and I do not under-estimate your skills. However, I do have a couple of worries. Number 1 being your reputation within the community. As k6ka has stated above, some users do feel as if you act a little childish, and act rather rationally towards certain conversations. Perhaps if you were to work on your maturity all together, you would gain more respect. Number 2 being your constant small mistakes, however small they are, they are indeed constant. I fully understand that no one is perfect, and even administrators do tend to make a mistake or 2, but I feel you need to learn how to figure out your mistakes, rather than having someone else clean up the mess. If you focus more on assuring that you make as minimal mistakes as you possibly can, you'll find that you will gain more experience from this.

Allow me to give you advice; focus more on your actions, rather than other's. If you are able to follow this advice, I would be more than happy to support you next time around. Beds ^{(talk - blog)} 20:31, February 3, 2015 (UTC)

Neutral - I trust you in the sense of your dedication to this wiki. You are very active, always try to improve articles (mostly focused on TS2 Sims), participate in discussions, organize stuff, help out with the contents... Yes, you've made a lot of constructive contributions. However, I'm still concerned with admin rights. How much do you understand the responsibilities of having the admin rights? Most of the time you seem to be too strict with the rules or policies without seeming to understand what they're for. You view admins as "the greater ones", but in truth it's not like that. I'm sure you keep trying to do your best, but I'm still not quite convinced with your behavior. It's not that your behavior is bad; it's that your behavior cannot reflect a responsible admin. Nikel _{Talk – Vote!} 13:47, February 4, 2015 (UTC)