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It appears that different console platforms have different versions of an adult Malcolm. He does not always go into the same profession or marry the same person. This is going to make infoboxing and family-tree updating difficult. Dharden (talk) 22:06, December 24, 2010 (UTC)
Who is he?
Personally I think he must be a distant cousin to Malcolm Landgraab III, making him the second cousin to Malcolm Landgraab IV.C.Syde65 (talk) 11:11, December 20, 2013 (UTC)
Actually i think it's more like this:
Gregory Landgraab + Unknown lady = Kermit Landgraab
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Kermit + Kitty = Chester Landgraab & Admiral Malcolm Landgraab I
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Admiral Malcolm Landgraab I + Malcolm I's wife = Malcolm Landgraab II
Admiral Malcolm Landgraab I + Stella Livorno = Magnus Landgraab, François Landgraab
Chester + Queenie = Nancy
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Malcolm II + Marion = Malcolm III
Nancy + Geoffrey (né Knack) = TS3!Malcolm
Magnus Landgraab + his wife = TS1!Malcolm
François Landgraab + Veronica = Todd
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Malcolm III + Margaret (neé Buckingham) = Malcolm IV
TS3!Malcolm + Hannelore = Adrien
TS1!Malcolm + "Mom" = Dudley and Mimi
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Malcolm IV + Bambi = Malcolm V (Malcolm VI, Malcolm VII, etc.)
Dudley changed his name to String Bean, even if he has kids they will have the "bean" surname anyway. Mimi marries into a poorer-class family and possibly takes their surname.
Adrien + someone (Rita Nelson?) = Posie's husband (Posie and her husband have Christina)
Todd + someone (Seema Sielen?) = someone (30-ish generations later, this "someone" gives birth to, or conceives, Oasis Landing's Gregory Landgraab.) 94.37.98.213 (talk) 22:19, June 12, 2014 (UTC)
The Landgraab family tree in my opinion
Admiral Landgraab/Gregory Landgraab -Married- Unknown
Kermit Landgraab (son/grandson/great-grandson of Gregory/Admiral Landgraab) -Married- Kitty Landgraab
Chester Landgraab (son of Kermit & Kitty) -Married- Queenie Landgraab (died young)
Malcolm Landgraab (Roaring Heights) (second son of Kermit & Kitty) -Married- Unknown/Stella Livorno (lover)
Nancy Landgraab (daughter of Chester & Kitty) -Married- Geoffrey Landgraab
Malcolm Landgraab II (son of Malcolm and ?) -Married- Marion Landgraab
Malcolm Landgraab (Sunset Valley) (son of Nancy and Geoffrey) -Married- Hannelore Landgraab
Malcolm Landgraab III (son of Malcolm II and Marion) -Married- Margaret Landgraab (both died young)
Adrien Landgraab (son of Malcolm and Hannelore) - Unknown
Malcolm Landgraab IV (son of Malcolm III and Marion) - Unknown
Malcolm Landgraab V? (possible son of Malcolm IV) -Married- Bambi Landgraab
Notes
- I am NOT including Mom, console Malcolm, Dudley, Mimi and the mentioned Magnus Landgraab
- I've listed the Nintendo DS Malcolm as the possible son of Malcolm Landgraab IV. This is just a theory based on the timeline.
- I am not sure if the Landgraabs are more closely related to Gregory or Admiral Landgraab so I listed them both as possible parents, grandparents, great-grandparents or ancestors to Kermit.
- I chose the Roaring Heights Malcolm as Malcolm Landgraab I since his age and his absence from the Sims 2 family tree add up. Of course the Sunset Valley Malcolm isn't Malcolm I since it would require him to be older than his own grandfather.
Suggestion to merge this page with Malcolm Landgraab (console)
I'd like to suggest merging the two pages for Malcolm Landgraab. Both articles could be improved and it seems highly likely that they are the same person. (It definitely makes more sense than the different versions of Bob Newbie and Betty Newbie being the same people.)
I agree that he's probably a distant cousin to Malcolm Landgraab III. It's also established that he remarried (possible multiple times).
Here's my speculative version of the Landgraab family tree that includes some ideas from previous posters:
Gvaudoin (talk) 14:30, January 11, 2018 (UTC)
- I'm not too entirely sure if we should be deciding whether or not all these Malcolm Landgraabs are the same people. Since the wiki is supposed to be reporting on the facts, if there are any ambiguities it may be better to keep pages separate. That being said, I noticed that there is a Sims 4 Sim on this page which should probably go on a Malcolm Landgraab (The Sims 4) and not in this article, given how TS4 is in a parallel universe. —k6ka 🍁 (Talk · Contributions) 15:07, January 24, 2018 (UTC)
- Oh wait, hmm that page was already created... as a bad, low quality stub (which I have since redirected). Perhaps it's time we organized this stuff better?
- Since this Malcolm Landgraab appears in more games and appears to be more prominent, perhaps we could do the following:
- Move Malcolm Landgraab (The Sims 3) (this page) to Malcolm Landgraab (currently a DAB page, which we can move to Malcolm Landgraab (disambiguation)
- Merge Malcolm Landgraab (console) to Malcolm Landgraab
- For the last point, though, is there any evidence that suggests the two are definitely the same person? That would be a lot of information crammed onto one page... and the excessive usage of {{Sim}} templates could possibly break the parser as those templates are not cheap to use. —k6ka 🍁 (Talk · Contributions) 15:13, January 24, 2018 (UTC)
- I think your suggestion makes a lot of sense. The only real inconsistency happens with the Sims 4 version where Malcolm is younger than Bella and Mortimer while they are the same age in the Sims 3 and the console games. But the same happens with other Sims as well like the Caliente sisters who are also very different in the Sims 4 and it's meant to be an alternate universe anyway.
- Regarding the templates: The article would use 5 Sim templates if we don't use the grey one at the start. Gvaudoin (talk) 18:02, January 27, 2018 (UTC)
Im 100% agree with this family tree and merging idea of pages ! M.Plènozas (talk) 02:26, March 2, 2018 (UTC)
I would also agree as it would make the information of the Landgraabs less congested and make it easier for others to find information about the Landgraabs, although a good question is whether or not consistency of Sims matters in the case of merges.
Seyurian18 (talk) 09:58, March 12, 2018 (UTC)
- Well, I think there are always some inconsistencies because the producers don't pay that much attention to continuity but I still agree with k6ka's suggestion and I think the article could be vastly improved by merging the pages and giving the article a better structure. In the intro it could be mentioned that he was first introdurced in SimCity 3000. After that I would use chronological order for the biography (The Sims 3 - The Sims 3 (console) - The Sims (console) - The Sims Bustin' Out (console)) with the exception of the alternate universe version from The Sims 4. Some of the notes from the end of this article would become redundant while most of the trivia from the console article could be used for the biography. Gvaudoin (talk) 14:00, March 12, 2018 (UTC)
I agree with what you say as that could help improve the article and make reading information about Malcom easier. Seyurian18 (talk) 08:09, March 13, 2018 (UTC)