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|caption = Olive will stop at nothing to get what she wants. She spends her time collecting mushrooms, sharpening sticks, and excavating her yard.
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|name = Olive Specter
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|image = [[File:Olive Specter (The Sims 3).png|250px]]
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|caption = High freedom and high fashion? What more can a girl ask for?
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|body = Thin
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|neighbor = Midnight Hollow
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|name = Olive Specter
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'''Olive Specter''' (née '''Muenda''', previously '''Thanasia''' and '''Mortis''') is one of the pre-made, playable [[Sim]]s that ships with ''[[The Sims 2]]''.
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|game = The Sims 3 Store
  
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|age = Adult
  
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|career = Culinary
  
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|careerlevel = Vegetable Slicer
  
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|music = Indie
  
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|food = Cookies
  
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|color = Irish green
  
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|hair = Grey
  
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|eye = Brown
  
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|sign = Aries
  
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'''Olive Specter''' (née '''Muenda''', previously '''Thanasia''' and '''Mortis''') is one of the pre-created, playable Sims that ships with ''[[The Sims 2]]'' game.
  
   
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She and her teenage niece, [[Ophelia Nigmos]], reside in the [[Specter]] household in the neighborhood of [[Strangetown]]. Olive is a many-time widow - her many husbands included [[Hugh Thanasia]], [[Rigger Mortis]], and [[Ichabod Specter]] (all are deceased before the game begins). She was also left at the altar by [[Earl E. DeMise]], who died soon after. The death of her many husbands has led some players to [[Olive Specter/theories|theorize]] that Olive is a murderer or was somehow responsible for their deaths; these theories remain unconfirmed.
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She and her teenage niece, [[Ophelia Nigmos]], reside in the [[Specter]] household in the [[neighborhood]] of [[Strangetown]]. Olive is a many-time widow - her many husbands included [[Hugh Thanasia]], [[Rigger Mortis]], and [[Ichabod Specter]] (all are deceased before the game begins). She was also left at the altar by [[Earl E. DeMise]], who died soon after. The death of her many husbands has led some players to [[Olive Specter/theories|theorize]] that Olive is a murderer or was somehow responsible for their deaths; these theories remain unconfirmed.
   
 
She later appeared as a younger version of herself alongside her son [[Nervous Subject]] in the store world [[Midnight Hollow]].
  
She later appeared as a younger version of herself alongside her son [[Nervous Subject]] in the store world [[Midnight Hollow]].
   
 
==Biography==
  
==Biography==
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===Life Leading up to The Sims 3===
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===Life leading up to The Sims 3===
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Olive appeared alongside her son [[Nervous Subject]] in the store world [[Midnight Hollow]].
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Olive appears alongside her son Nervous Subject in the store world Midnight Hollow.
   
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There seems to be some kind of timeline confusion surrounding Nervous being taken away by social services and Olive's marriage to Ichabod Specter. In the Strangetown storyline from ''The Sims 2'', Nervous had already been taken away by the time she married Ichabod, and therefore before Ichabod's death, whereas in Midnight Hollow, Ichabod is already dead and a ghost in her garden. Oddly, [[Earl E. DeMise]] does not appear in this world, although there is a grave in [[Dragon Valley]] that reads "Reserved for Earl E. DeMise" and "What's this about Easter Eggs?" The family tree does not show who Nervous' father is, even though some evidence is pointing at that Nervous' father is the Grim Reaper in the family bio. This may be due to the Grim Reaper only being generated when needed.
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There seems to be some kind of timeline confusion surrounding Nervous being taken away by social services and Olive's marriage to Ichabod Specter. In the Strangetown storyline from ''The Sims 2'', Nervous had already been taken away by the time she married Ichabod, and therefore before Ichabod's death, whereas in Midnight Hollow, Ichabod is already dead and a ghost in her garden. Oddly, Earl E. DeMise does not appear in this world, although there is a grave in [[Dragon Valley]] that reads "Reserved for Earl E. DeMise" and "What's this about Easter Eggs?" The family tree does not show who Nervous' father is, even though some evidence is pointing at that Nervous' father is the Grim Reaper in the family bio. This may be due to the Grim Reaper only being generated when needed.
   
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===Life leading up to The Sims 2===
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Olive shares her eerie, haunted home with her niece, Ophelia Nigmos. Her sister, [[Willow Nigmos]], and Willow's husband [[Creon Nigmos|Creon]] are both deceased and buried in [[List of Sims who died on the Specter lot|Olive's garden]]; their deaths are the result of [[drowning]]. She is the daughter of [[Lerato Muenda]] and [[Peponi Muenda]], both also of [[Strangetown]], who both perished as a result of [[fire]].
   
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Olive did [[WooHoo]] with none other than the [[Grim Reaper]]; which suggests Olive had more than a passing [[relationship]] with death. Oddly enough, when the player gets the [[Resurrect-O-Nomitron|Paranormal career reward]], introduced in the ''[[University]]'' expansion pack, and calls the Grim Reaper, he will say that Olive doesn't know anybody who has died. This is because all the victims in her garden have unlinked character files.
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===Life Leading up to The Sims 2===
  
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Olive shares her eerie, haunted home with her niece, [[Ophelia Nigmos]]. Her sister, [[Willow Nigmos]], and Willow's husband [[Creon Nigmos|Creon]] are both deceased and buried in Olive's garden; their deaths are the result of [[drowning]]. She is the daughter of [[Lerato Muenda]] and [[Peponi Muenda]], both also of [[Strangetown]], who both perished as a result of [[fire]].
  
   
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Olive also had a son - [[Nervous Subject]] - who was taken away by the [[Social Worker]]. There is no record of Nervous' father in the family tree, though some say it is the Grim Reaper. Nervous, now an [[adult]], currently resides at the [[Beaker family|Beaker]] residence with [[Loki Beaker|Loki]] and [[Circe Beaker]]. Everyone expects Olive's money to be inherited by Ophelia following her death, but, surprisingly, the [[inheritance]] goes to Nervous Subject.<ref>Since inheritance in ''The Sims 2'' is separate from family funds, the family funds will pass to Ophelia as long as she is living on the lot when Olive dies.</ref><ref>If Olive significantly improves her relationship with Ophelia before she dies, there is a chance that some of the inheritance will go her.</ref>
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Olive did [[WooHoo]] with none other than the [[Grim Reaper]]; which suggests Olive had more than a passing relationship with death. Oddly enough, when the player gets the [[Resurrect-O-Nomitron|Paranormal career reward]], introduced in the ''[[University]]'' expansion pack, and calls the Grim Reaper, he will say that Olive doesn't know anybody who has died.
  
   
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She dislikes [[General Buzz Grunt]], whose ex-wife died on Olive's lot soon after leaving the Grunt household. Even though they dislike each other, Buzz will almost always come around to her lot if he is invited over immediately. This may prove the theory that Olive is a "serial-killer" and since they don't like each other, Buzz could be her next victim. Another evidence that she may be a murderer is the fact that Earl E. DeMise died right after leaving Olive at the altar.
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Olive also had a son - [[Nervous Subject]] - who was taken away by the [[Social Worker]]. There is no record of Nervous' father in the family tree, though some say it is the Grim Reaper. Nervous, now an [[adult]], currently resides at the [[Beaker family|Beaker]] residence with [[Loki Beaker|Loki]] and [[Circe Beaker]]. Everyone expects Olive's money to be inherited by Ophelia following her death, but, surprisingly, the [[inheritance]] goes to Nervous Subject.<ref>Since inheritance in ''The Sims 2'' is separate from family funds, the family funds will pass to Ophelia as long as she is living on the lot when Olive dies.</ref>
  
   
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When first played, she will have a [[Wants and Fears|want]] to retire. Because she has reached level 5 of the Slacker career, Olive has a [[Career rewards#AquaGreen Hydroponic Garden|Slacker career reward]] available for her to purchase. When the family is first played, she will be on her 10th day as an Elder.
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She dislikes [[General Buzz Grunt]], whose ex-wife died on Olive's lot soon after leaving the Grunt household. Even though they dislike each other, Buzz will almost always come around to her lot if he is invited over immediately. This may prove the theory that Olive is a "serial-killer" and since they don't like each other, Buzz could be her next victim. Another evidence that she may be a murderer is the fact that Earl E. Demise died right after leaving Olive at the altar.
  
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When first played, she will have a [[Wants and Fears|want]] to retire.
  
   
 
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|[[File:Potty Trained.png]]
  
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|Was potty trained by [[Lerato Muenda]]
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|Potty Trained by [[Lerato Muenda|Lerato]]
 
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|Positive
 
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|[[File:Learned to Walk from -Sim-.png]]
  
|[[File:Learned to Walk from -Sim-.png]]
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|Learned how to walk from [[Lerato Muenda]]
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|Learned to Walk from Lerato
 
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|Positive
 
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|[[File:Learned to Talk from -Sim-.png]]
  
|[[File:Learned to Talk from -Sim-.png]]
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|Learned how to talk from [[Lerato Muenda]]
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|Learned to Talk from Lerato
 
|Positive
  
|Positive
 
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|[[File:Grew Up.png]]
  
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|Grew up well
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|Grew Up Well
 
|Positive
  
|Positive
 
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|[[File:Grew Up.png]]
  
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|[[Willow Nigmos]] grew up well
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|[[Willow Nigmos|Willow]] Grew Up Well
 
|Positive
  
|Positive
 
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|[[File:Grew Up.png]]
  
|[[File:Grew Up.png]]
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|Grew up well
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|Grew Up Well
 
|Positive
  
|Positive
 
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|[[File:-Sim- Died.png]]
  
|[[File:-Sim- Died.png]]
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|[[Danielle Greaves (Strangetown)|Danielle Greaves]] died
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|[[Danielle Greaves (Strangetown)|Danielle]] Died
 
|Negative
  
|Negative
 
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|[[File:Grew Up.png]]
  
|[[File:Grew Up.png]]
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|Grew up well
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|Grew Up Well
 
|Positive
  
|Positive
 
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|[[File:Got a Job.png]]
  
|[[File:Got a Job.png]]
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|Got a job
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|Got a [[Slacker|Job]]
 
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|Positive
 
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|[[File:Had Very First Kiss with -Sim-.png]]
  
|[[File:Had Very First Kiss with -Sim-.png]]
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|Had the first kiss with [[Earl E. DeMise]]
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|Had Very First Kiss with [[Earl E. DeMise|Earl E.]]
 
|Positive
  
|Positive
 
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|[[File:Had Very First Kiss with -Sim-.png]]
  
|[[File:Had Very First Kiss with -Sim-.png]]
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|Kissed [[Earl E. DeMise|Earl E.]] for the first time
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|Kissed Earl E. for the First Time
 
|Positive
  
|Positive
 
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|[[File:Grew Up.png]]
  
|[[File:Grew Up.png]]
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|[[Willow Nigmos]] grew up well
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|Willow Grew Up Well
 
|Positive
  
|Positive
 
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|[[File:Got a Promotion.png]]
  
|[[File:Got a Promotion.png]]
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|Promotion
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|Got a Promotion
 
|Positive
  
|Positive
 
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|[[File:Fell in Love with -Sim-.png]]
  
|[[File:Fell in Love with -Sim-.png]]
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|Fell in love with [[Earl E. DeMise|Earl E.]]
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|Fell in Love with Earl E.
 
|Positive
  
|Positive
 
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|[[File:Got Engaged to -Sim-.png]]
  
|[[File:Got Engaged to -Sim-.png]]
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|Got engaged to [[Earl E. DeMise|Earl E.]]
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|Got Engaged to Earl E.
 
|Positive
  
|Positive
 
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|[[File:Got Left at the Altar by -Sim-.png]]
  
|[[File:Got Left at the Altar by -Sim-.png]]
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|Was left at altar by [[Earl E. DeMise|Earl E.]]
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|Got Left at the Altar by Earl E.
 
|Negative
  
|Negative
 
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|[[File:-Sim- Died.png]]
  
|[[File:-Sim- Died.png]]
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|[[Earl E. DeMise|Earl E.]] died
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|Earl E. Died
 
|Negative
  
|Negative
 
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|[[File:Grew Up.png]]
  
|[[File:Grew Up.png]]
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|[[Willow Nigmos]] grew up well
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|Willow Grew Up Well
 
|Positive
  
|Positive
 
|-
  
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|[[File:-Sim- Died.png]]
  
|[[File:-Sim- Died.png]]
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|[[Tim Lee DeMise]] died
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|[[Tim Lee DeMise|Tim Lee]] Died
 
|Negative
  
|Negative
 
|-
  
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|[[File:-Sim- Died.png]]
  
|[[File:-Sim- Died.png]]
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|[[Seth Zaidi]] died
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|[[Seth Zaidi|Seth]] Died
 
|Negative
  
|Negative
 
|-
  
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|[[File:-Sim- Died.png]]
  
|[[File:-Sim- Died.png]]
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|[[Patrick Jones]] died
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|[[Patrick Jones|Patrick]] Died
 
|Negative
  
|Negative
 
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|[[File:-Sim- Got Engaged.png]]
  
|[[File:-Sim- Got Engaged.png]]
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|[[Willow Nigmos]] got engaged
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|Willow Got Engaged
 
|Positive
  
|Positive
 
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|[[File:-Sim- Got Married.png]]
  
|[[File:-Sim- Got Married.png]]
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|[[Willow Nigmos]] got married
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|Willow Got Married
 
|Positive
  
|Positive
 
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|[[File:-Sim- Died.png]]
  
|[[File:-Sim- Died.png]]
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|[[Melissa Sims]] died
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|[[Melissa Sims|Melissa]] Died
 
|Negative
  
|Negative
 
|-
  
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|[[File:Got a Promotion.png]]
  
|[[File:Got a Promotion.png]]
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|Promotion
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|Got a Promotion
 
|Positive
  
|Positive
 
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|[[File:Got a Promotion.png]]
  
|[[File:Got a Promotion.png]]
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|Promotion
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|Got a Promotion
 
|Positive
  
|Positive
 
|-
  
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|[[File:-Sim- Died.png]]
  
|[[File:-Sim- Died.png]]
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|[[Lerato Muenda]] died
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|Lerato Died
 
|Negative
  
|Negative
 
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|[[File:-Sim- Died.png]]
  
|[[File:-Sim- Died.png]]
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|[[Peponi Muenda]] died
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|[[Peponi Muenda|Peponi]] Died
 
|Negative
  
|Negative
 
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|[[File:Got a Promotion.png]]
  
|[[File:Got a Promotion.png]]
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|Promotion
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|Got a Promotion
 
|Positive
  
|Positive
 
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|[[File:Got a Promotion.png]]
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|Promotion
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|Got a Promotion
 
|Positive
  
|Positive
 
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|[[File:-Sim- Died.png]]
  
|[[File:-Sim- Died.png]]
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|[[Jessica Ebadi (maid)|Jessica Ebadi]] died
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|[[Jessica Ebadi (maid)|Jessica]] Died
 
|Negative
  
|Negative
 
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|[[File:Had Very First Kiss with -Sim-.png]]
  
|[[File:Had Very First Kiss with -Sim-.png]]
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|Kissed [[Rigger Mortis]] for the first time
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|Kissed [[Rigger Mortis|Rigger]] for the First Time
 
|Positive
  
|Positive
 
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|[[File:-Sim- Died.png]]
  
|[[File:-Sim- Died.png]]
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|[[Benjamin Cho]] died
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|[[Benjamin Cho|Benjamin]] Died
 
|Negative
  
|Negative
 
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|[[File:Fell in Love with -Sim-.png]]
  
|[[File:Fell in Love with -Sim-.png]]
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|Fell in love with [[Rigger Mortis]]
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|Fell in Love with [[Rigger Mortis]]
 
|Positive
  
|Positive
 
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|[[File:Got a Promotion.png]]
  
|[[File:Got a Promotion.png]]
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|Promotion
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|Got a Promotion
 
|Positive
  
|Positive
 
|-
  
|-
 
|[[File:Got Engaged to -Sim-.png]]
  
|[[File:Got Engaged to -Sim-.png]]
−
|Got engaged to [[Rigger Mortis]]
 +
|Got Engaged to Rigger
 
|Positive
  
|Positive
 
|-
  
|-
 
|[[File:Got Married to -Sim-, a Rich Sim.png]]
  
|[[File:Got Married to -Sim-, a Rich Sim.png]]
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|Got married to a rich sim, [[Rigger Mortis]]
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|Got Married to Rigger, a Rich Sim
 
|Positive
  
|Positive
 
|-
  
|-
 
|[[File:Got a Promotion.png]]
  
|[[File:Got a Promotion.png]]
−
|Promotion
 +
|Got a Promotion
 
|Positive
  
|Positive
 
|-
  
|-
 
|[[File:-Sim- Died.png]]
  
|[[File:-Sim- Died.png]]
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|[[Rigger Mortis]] died
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|Rigger Died
 
|Negative
  
|Negative
 
|-
  
|-
 
|[[File:Got a Promotion.png]]
  
|[[File:Got a Promotion.png]]
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|Promotion
 +
|Got a Promotion
 
|Positive
  
|Positive
 
|-
  
|-
 
|[[File:Reached the Top of the -career- Career.png]]
  
|[[File:Reached the Top of the -career- Career.png]]
  +
|Reached the Top of the Slacker [[career]]
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|Maxed [[Slacker]] career level
  
 
|Positive
  
|Positive
 
|-
  
|-
 
|[[File:Grew Up.png]]
  
|[[File:Grew Up.png]]
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|Grew up well
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|Grew Up Well
 
|Positive
  
|Positive
 
|-
  
|-
 
|[[File:-Sim- Died.png]]
  
|[[File:-Sim- Died.png]]
−
|[[Vicki Sims]] died
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|[[Vicki Sims|Vicki]] Died
 
|Negative
  
|Negative
 
|-
  
|-
 
|[[File:Had Very First Kiss with -Sim-.png]]
  
|[[File:Had Very First Kiss with -Sim-.png]]
−
|Kissed [[Hugh Thanasia]]
 +
|Kissed [[Hugh Thanasia|Hugh]] for the First Time
 
|Positive
  
|Positive
 
|-
  
|-
 
|[[File:-Sim- Died.png]]
  
|[[File:-Sim- Died.png]]
−
|[[Lyla Grunt]] died
 +
|[[Lyla Grunt|Lyla]] Died
 
|Negative
  
|Negative
 
|-
  
|-
 
|[[File:Got Engaged to -Sim-.png]]
  
|[[File:Got Engaged to -Sim-.png]]
−
|Got engaged to [[Hugh Thanasia|Hugh]]
 +
|Got Engaged to Hugh
 
|Positive
  
|Positive
 
|-
  
|-
 
|[[File:Got Married to -Sim-.png]]
  
|[[File:Got Married to -Sim-.png]]
−
|Got married to [[Hugh Thanasia|Hugh]]
 +
|Got Married to Hugh
 
|Positive
  
|Positive
 
|-
  
|-
 
|[[File:-Sim- Died.png]]
  
|[[File:-Sim- Died.png]]
−
|[[Lou Thanasia]] died
 +
|[[Lou Thanasia|Lou]] Died
 
|Negative
  
|Negative
 
|-
  
|-
 
|[[File:-Sim- Died.png]]
  
|[[File:-Sim- Died.png]]
−
|[[Hugh Thanasia]] died
 +
|Hugh Died
 
|Negative
  
|Negative
 
|-
  
|-
 
|[[File:Did WooHoo with -Sim-.png]]
  
|[[File:Did WooHoo with -Sim-.png]]
−
|Had Woohoo with [[Grim Reaper]]
 +
|Did WooHoo with [[Grim Reaper]]
 
|Positive
  
|Positive
 
|-
  
|-
 
|[[File:-Sim- Died.png]]
  
|[[File:-Sim- Died.png]]
−
|[[Knut Futa]] died
 +
|[[Knut Futa|Knut]] Died
 
|Negative
  
|Negative
 
|-
  
|-
 
|[[File:-Sim- Died.png]]
  
|[[File:-Sim- Died.png]]
−
|[[Luc Smith]] died
 +
|[[Luc Smith|Luc]] Died
 
|Negative
  
|Negative
 
|-
  
|-
 
|[[File:Had -Sim-.png]]
  
|[[File:Had -Sim-.png]]
−
|[[Nervous Subject]]'s birth
 +
|Had [[Nervous Subject (hidden)|Nervous]]!
 
|Positive
  
|Positive
 
|-
  
|-
 
|[[File:Became Best Friends with -Sim-.png]]
  
|[[File:Became Best Friends with -Sim-.png]]
−
|Became best friends with [[Ichabod Specter]]
 +
|Made Best Friends with [[Ichabod Specter|Ichabod]]
 
|Positive
  
|Positive
 
|-
  
|-
 
|[[File:Child Taken by Social Worker.png]]
  
|[[File:Child Taken by Social Worker.png]]
−
|[[Nervous Subject]] was taken away by Social Worker
 +
|[[Nervous Subject (hidden)|Child]] taken by [[Social Worker]]
 
|Negative
  
|Negative
 
|-
  
|-
 
|[[File:Had Very First Kiss with -Sim-.png]]
  
|[[File:Had Very First Kiss with -Sim-.png]]
−
|Kissed [[Ichabod Specter]] for the first time
 +
|Kissed Ichabod for the First Time
 
|Positive
  
|Positive
 
|-
  
|-
 
|[[File:Fell in Love with -Sim-.png]]
  
|[[File:Fell in Love with -Sim-.png]]
−
|Fell in love with [[Ichabod Specter]]
 +
|Fell in Love with Ichabod
 
|Positive
  
|Positive
 
|-
  
|-
 
|[[File:Got Engaged to -Sim-.png]]
  
|[[File:Got Engaged to -Sim-.png]]
−
|Got engaged to [[Ichabod Specter]]
 +
|Got Engaged to Ichabod
 
|Positive
  
|Positive
 
|-
  
|-
 
|[[File:Got Married to -Sim-.png]]
  
|[[File:Got Married to -Sim-.png]]
−
|Got married to [[Ichabod Specter]]
 +
|Got Married to Ichabod
 
|Positive
  
|Positive
 
|-
  
|-
 
|[[File:-Sim- Died.png]]
  
|[[File:-Sim- Died.png]]
−
|[[Ichabod Specter]] died
 +
|Ichabod Died
 
|Negative
  
|Negative
 
|-
  
|-
 
|[[File:-Sim- Died.png]]
  
|[[File:-Sim- Died.png]]
−
|[[Creon Nigmos]] died
 +
|[[Creon Nigmos|Creon]] Died
 
|Negative
  
|Negative
 
|-
  
|-
 
|[[File:-Sim- Died.png]]
  
|[[File:-Sim- Died.png]]
−
|[[Willow Nigmos]] died
 +
|Willow Died
 
|Negative
  
|Negative
 
|-
  
|-
 
|[[File:-Sim- Joined the Family!.png]]
  
|[[File:-Sim- Joined the Family!.png]]
−
|[[Ophelia Nigmos]] joined the family
 +
|[[Ophelia Nigmos|Ophelia]] Joined the Family!
 
|Positive
  
|Positive
 
|-
  
|-
 
|[[File:Grew Up.png]]
  
|[[File:Grew Up.png]]
−
|[[Ophelia Nigmos]] grew up badly
 +
|Ophelia Grew Up Badly
 
|Negative
  
|Negative
 
|}
  
|}
 
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===Olive's memory connections===
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==Olive's memory connections==
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If one studies the chronology of Olive's memories, it is apparent that she gave birth to her son Nervous after she had aged into an elder. Olive did [[WooHoo]] with the Grim Reaper after she became an elder. If one believes the theory that Grim Reaper is Nervous' father, that would mean that Olive got pregnant after she became an elder which is not possible through normal gameplay.
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[[File:Earl E DeMise left Olive.jpg|thumb|250px|Olive after being left at the altar by [[Earl E. DeMise|Earl]] who died shortly after.]]
  
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If one studies the chronology of Olive's memories, it is apparent that she gave birth to her son Nervous after she had aged into an elder. Olive did [[WooHoo]] with the Grim Reaper after she became an elder. If one believes the theory that Grim Reaper is Nervous' father, that would mean that Olive got pregnant after she became an elder which is not allowed through normal gameplay.
  
   
 
==Olive's graveyard==
  
==Olive's graveyard==
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There are a number of people buried in Olive's backyard along with family and former husbands - some of them are service people (maids, delivery people, etc.). Many of them have names that are related to death (Euthanasia, Early Demise, Rigor Mortis, etc.) There are many theories about Olive, and many unknown questions. How did all these people die in Olive's lot? A few players think perhaps before the game was in stores many Sims died, many other think they might be Olive's victims, however murder is technically impossible in The Sims games, it's a possible storyline. Olive's biography states that she will "stop at nothing to get what she wants." It also states that she spends her time "sharpening sticks," which may suggest her use of a weapon for her victims, and as well as "excavating her yard," which gives the clue that she spends her time digging holes to bury the bodies of her victims. Her surname, [[Specter family|Specter]], is also related to death, as a specter is another term for ghost.
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There are a number of people buried in Olive's backyard along with family and former husbands - some of them are service people (maids, delivery people, etc.). Many of them have names that are related to death (Euthanasia, Early Demise, Rigor Mortis, etc.) There are many theories about Olive, and many unknown questions, such as the causes for all of the deaths. A few players think perhaps before the game was in stores many Sims died, many other think they might be Olive's victims, however, murder is technically impossible in ''The Sims'' games, it's a possible storyline. Olive's biography states that she will "stop at nothing to get what she wants." It also states that she spends her time "sharpening sticks," which may suggest her use of a weapon for her victims, and as well as "excavating her yard," which gives the clue that she spends her time digging holes to bury the bodies of her victims. Her surname, [[Specter family|Specter]], is also related to death, as a specter is another term for ghost.
   
 
==Trivia==
  
==Trivia==
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* Olive's name might be a play on the phrase "I love specter" possibly showing her love of the [[Grim Reaper]].
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*Olive's name might be a play on the phrase "I love specter" possibly showing her love of the [[Grim Reaper]].
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* Olive's name could also be a play on "o-live", as in an 'alive specter', or a live ghost - possibly again a relation to the Grim Reaper.
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*Olive's name could also be a play on "o-live", as in an 'alive specter', or a live ghost - possibly again a relation to the Grim Reaper.
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* Olive, along with Herb and Coral Oldie, are the only living Sims in ''The Sims 2'' base game that do not have grandparents in their family tree.
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*Olive, along with [[Herb Oldie|Herb]] and [[Coral Oldie]], are the only living Sims in ''The Sims 2'' base game that do not have grandparents in their family tree.
 
*She remembers giving birth to a different [[Nervous Subject (hidden)|Nervous Subject]] than the one that lives in [[Beaker family|Beaker household]].
  
*She remembers giving birth to a different [[Nervous Subject (hidden)|Nervous Subject]] than the one that lives in [[Beaker family|Beaker household]].
 
*Like many people buried on her lot, she has no eyebrows.
  
*Like many people buried on her lot, she has no eyebrows.
 
*Olive has a hidden Fortune aspiration token which can be viewed in SimPE along with her other memories.
  
*Olive has a hidden Fortune aspiration token which can be viewed in SimPE along with her other memories.
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*On the official ''The Sims 2'' website, sometimes in the news they would make reference to Olive Specter's cemetery, but they call it Olive's garden. Sometimes it is called Olive's garden in-game also. Maybe that is a reference to Olive Garden, which is thought to be a favorite restaurant for some of the game creators.
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*On the official ''The Sims 2'' website, sometimes in the news they would make reference to Olive Specter's cemetery, but they call it Olive's garden. Sometimes it is called Olive's garden in-game also. It could possibly be a reference to Olive Garden, which is thought to be a favorite restaurant for some of the game creators.
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*Without the use of cheats or the Elixir of Life, Olive typically dies of old age after about 2 days, the same day Ophelia becomes an adult.
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*Without the use of cheats or the Elixir of Life, Olive dies of old age after about 2 days, the same day Ophelia becomes an adult.
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*When editing her in SimPE, her natural hair color is determined as brown, though both her parents have black hair and in the family's gallery she is shown as an adult with black hair. This suggests she dyed her hair black.
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*When editing her in SimPE, her natural hair color is determined as brown, though both her parents have black hair, and in the family's gallery, she is shown as an adult with black hair. This could be a mistake by the developers.
 
*In ''[[The Sims 3]]'' a medium painting can be the [http://postimage.org/image/19qr8ze78/ picture] of Olive being left at the altar by Earl. It is a common [[Easter eggs|Easter egg]].
  
*In ''[[The Sims 3]]'' a medium painting can be the [http://postimage.org/image/19qr8ze78/ picture] of Olive being left at the altar by Earl. It is a common [[Easter eggs|Easter egg]].
 
*Olive has no known relationships with anyone in her graveyard except [[Ichabod Specter]], [[Lerato Muenda]], [[Peponi Muenda]], and [[Willow Nigmos]]. Strangely, each of these Sims are mere acquaintances with Olive despite being in her immediate family. They are also non-resurrectable. Using SimPE, you can see that she also has relationship points with 19 "Unknown" Sims. The remaining Sims in her graveyard appear to have relationship values but they are not considered "known" relationships because the box is unchecked.
  
*Olive has no known relationships with anyone in her graveyard except [[Ichabod Specter]], [[Lerato Muenda]], [[Peponi Muenda]], and [[Willow Nigmos]]. Strangely, each of these Sims are mere acquaintances with Olive despite being in her immediate family. They are also non-resurrectable. Using SimPE, you can see that she also has relationship points with 19 "Unknown" Sims. The remaining Sims in her graveyard appear to have relationship values but they are not considered "known" relationships because the box is unchecked.
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*Olive's bio suggests the possibility of her being a murderer and the people at her graveyard being her victims, as she spends her time "sharpening sticks and excavating her garden" and she will stop at nothing to get what she wants.
  
*Olive's bio suggests the possibility of her being a murderer and the people at her graveyard being her victims, as she spends her time "sharpening sticks and excavating her garden" and she will stop at nothing to get what she wants.
   
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==Other Languages==
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==Gallery==
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Earl E DeMise left Olive.jpg|Olive after being left at the altar by her first lover, [[Earl E. DeMise|Earl]], who died shortly after.
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Simawaii Picture.jpg|Olive on honeymoon with Rigger Mortis, her third lover
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Olive and Ichabod.jpg|Olive marrying Ichabod Specter, her fourth lover and the only one who died of natural causes.
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Specter Family Art.jpg|Olive sitting in her garden.
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</gallery>
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==Other languages==
 
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!Finnish
 
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|Olivia Vainajala
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|Olivia Vainajala
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|Vert olive Chimère
 
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!German
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|Olivia Speck
  
|Olivia Speck
 
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|אוליב ספקטר
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|אוליב ספקטר
 
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!Korean
 
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==See also==
  
==See also==
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* [[List of Sims who died on the Specter lot]]
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*[[List of Sims who died on the Specter lot]]
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* [[Mysteries]]
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*[[Mysteries]]
   
 
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Olive Specter
Olive Specter
Gender Female Female
Age TS3-Elder Elder
Life state CAS Human icon Sim
Biography
Olive will stop at nothing to get what she wants. She spends her time collecting mushrooms, sharpening sticks, and excavating her yard.
Education and employment
Career Slacker career Professional Party Guest
Family
Family/Families Specter family
Parents Peponi Muenda, Lerato Muenda Both Deceased
Siblings Willow Nigmos Younger Sister Deceased
Marital status Widowed
Romances Earl E. DeMise Ex-Fiancé, Hugh Thanasia Married, Rigger Mortis Married, Ichabod Specter Married All Deceased, Grim Reaper Lover
Children Nervous Subject Son
Personality
Zodiac sign Scorpio Scorpio
Aspiration Knowledge Knowledge
Appearance
Hair color TS2 Grey Hair Grey
Eye color TS2 Brown Eyes Brown
Skin color Skin-dark Dark
Body shape Thin Thin
Other information
Game The Sims 2 Icon The Sims 2
Playability Playable
Neighborhood Strangetown
Olive Specter
Olive Specter (The Sims 3)
Gender Female Female
Age TS3-Adult Adult
Life state CAS Human icon Sim
Biography
High freedom and high fashion? What more can a girl ask for?
Education and employment
Career Culinary career icon Vegetable Slicer
Family
Family/Families Specter family
Marital status Widowed
Romances Earl E. DeMise Ex-Fiancé, Hugh Thanasia Married, Rigger Mortis Married, Ichabod Specter Married All Deceased, Grim Reaper Lover
Children Nervous Subject Son
Personality
Traits Trait Bookworm small Bookworm
Trait Commitment Issues small Commitment Issues
Trait Friendly small Friendly
Trait Light Sleeper small Light Sleeper
Trait Unlucky small Unlucky
Zodiac sign AriesLN Aries
Lifetime wish LTW Living in the Lap of Luxury Living in the Lap of Luxury
Favorites Fav Indie Indie
Fav Cookies Cookies
Fav Irish Green Irish Green
Appearance
Hair color Haircolor7-TS3 Grey
Eye color Eye-brown Brown
Skin color Dark skin-TS3 Dark
Body shape Thin Thin
Other information
Game TS3MH Icon The Sims 3 Store
Playability Playable
World Midnight Hollow
Olive Specter
Olive Specter (The Sims 4)
Gender Female Female
Age TS3-Elder Elder
Life state CAS Human icon Sim
Family
Family/Families Specter family
Marital status Single
Personality
Traits Trait TS4 Neat Neat
Trait TS4 Mean Mean
Trait TS4 Noncommittal Noncommittal
Trait TS4 Alluring Alluring
Aspiration Aspiration TS4 Serial Romantic Serial Romantic
Appearance
Hair color TS2 Grey Hair Grey
Eye color TS2 Brown Eyes Brown
Skin color Skin-medium Medium
Body shape Thin Thin
Other information
Game TS4 Icon The Sims 4
Playability Gallery

Olive Specter (née Muenda, previously Thanasia and Mortis) is one of the pre-made, playable Sims that ships with The Sims 2.

She and her teenage niece, Ophelia Nigmos, reside in the Specter household in the neighborhood of Strangetown. Olive is a many-time widow - her many husbands included Hugh Thanasia, Rigger Mortis, and Ichabod Specter (all are deceased before the game begins). She was also left at the altar by Earl E. DeMise, who died soon after. The death of her many husbands has led some players to theorize that Olive is a murderer or was somehow responsible for their deaths; these theories remain unconfirmed.

She later appeared as a younger version of herself alongside her son Nervous Subject in the store world Midnight Hollow.

Biography

Life leading up to The Sims 3

Olive appears alongside her son Nervous Subject in the store world Midnight Hollow.

There seems to be some kind of timeline confusion surrounding Nervous being taken away by social services and Olive's marriage to Ichabod Specter. In the Strangetown storyline from The Sims 2, Nervous had already been taken away by the time she married Ichabod, and therefore before Ichabod's death, whereas in Midnight Hollow, Ichabod is already dead and a ghost in her garden. Oddly, Earl E. DeMise does not appear in this world, although there is a grave in Dragon Valley that reads "Reserved for Earl E. DeMise" and "What's this about Easter Eggs?" The family tree does not show who Nervous' father is, even though some evidence is pointing at that Nervous' father is the Grim Reaper in the family bio. This may be due to the Grim Reaper only being generated when needed.

Life leading up to The Sims 2

Olive shares her eerie, haunted home with her niece, Ophelia Nigmos. Her sister, Willow Nigmos, and Willow's husband Creon are both deceased and buried in Olive's garden; their deaths are the result of drowning. She is the daughter of Lerato Muenda and Peponi Muenda, both also of Strangetown, who both perished as a result of fire.

Olive did WooHoo with none other than the Grim Reaper; which suggests Olive had more than a passing relationship with death. Oddly enough, when the player gets the Paranormal career reward, introduced in the University expansion pack, and calls the Grim Reaper, he will say that Olive doesn't know anybody who has died. This is because all the victims in her garden have unlinked character files.

Olive also had a son - Nervous Subject - who was taken away by the Social Worker. There is no record of Nervous' father in the family tree, though some say it is the Grim Reaper. Nervous, now an adult, currently resides at the Beaker residence with Loki and Circe Beaker. Everyone expects Olive's money to be inherited by Ophelia following her death, but, surprisingly, the inheritance goes to Nervous Subject.[1][2]

She dislikes General Buzz Grunt, whose ex-wife died on Olive's lot soon after leaving the Grunt household. Even though they dislike each other, Buzz will almost always come around to her lot if he is invited over immediately. This may prove the theory that Olive is a "serial-killer" and since they don't like each other, Buzz could be her next victim. Another evidence that she may be a murderer is the fact that Earl E. DeMise died right after leaving Olive at the altar.

When first played, she will have a want to retire. Because she has reached level 5 of the Slacker career, Olive has a Slacker career reward available for her to purchase. When the family is first played, she will be on her 10th day as an Elder.

Simology

The Sims 2
Image Skill Level
Skill Mechanical Mechanical 4
Skill Charisma Charisma 5
Skill Creativity Creativity 5
The Sims 3
Image Skill Level
Cooking skill icon Cooking 2

The Sims 2
Image Name Relationship level
Buzz Grunt General Buzz Grunt Acquaintance
Ophelia Nigmos Ophelia Nigmos Acquaintance
Nervous Subject Nervous Subject Acquaintance
The Sims 3
Image Name Relationship level
Nervous Subject (Midnight Hollow) Nervous Subject Good Friend
Joaquin Dorsey Joaquin Dorsey Acquaintance
Josie Crane Josie Crane Acquaintance

The Sims 2
Personality
Scorpio
Scorpio
Sloppy 10 Neat
Shy 5 Outgoing
Lazy 5 Active
Serious 3 Playful
Grouchy 2 Nice
VibraLN
Sign / personality mismatch
A Sim with this personality would normally be a Virgo.
Info information icon
Genetic personality
Olive was born with 4 playful points and 1 nice point.

The Sims 2
Image Interest Level
Environment interest Environment 10
Food interest Food 9
Weather interest Weather 8
Culture interest Culture 0
Money interest Money 10
Politics interest Politics 4
Paranormal interest Paranormal 10
Health interest Health 10
Fashion interest Fashion 0
Travel interest Travel 0
Crime interest Crime 10
Sports interest Sports 0
Entertainment interest Entertainment 0
Animals interest Animals 10
Work interest Work 2
School interest School 2
Toys interest Toys 0
Sci-Fi interest Sci-Fi 5

The Sims 2
Image Memory Type
Potty Trained Potty Trained by Lerato Positive
Learned to Walk from -Sim- Learned to Walk from Lerato Positive
Learned to Talk from -Sim- Learned to Talk from Lerato Positive
Grew Up Grew Up Well Positive
Met -Sim- Met Mystery Sim Positive
Grew Up Willow Grew Up Well Positive
Grew Up Grew Up Well Positive
-Sim- Died Danielle Died Negative
Grew Up Grew Up Well Positive
Got a Job Got a Job Positive
Had Very First Kiss with -Sim- Had Very First Kiss with Earl E. Positive
Had Very First Kiss with -Sim- Kissed Earl E. for the First Time Positive
Grew Up Willow Grew Up Well Positive
Got a Promotion Got a Promotion Positive
Fell in Love with -Sim- Fell in Love with Earl E. Positive
Got Engaged to -Sim- Got Engaged to Earl E. Positive
Got Left at the Altar by -Sim- Got Left at the Altar by Earl E. Negative
-Sim- Died Earl E. Died Negative
Grew Up Willow Grew Up Well Positive
-Sim- Died Tim Lee Died Negative
-Sim- Died Seth Died Negative
-Sim- Died Patrick Died Negative
-Sim- Got Engaged Willow Got Engaged Positive
-Sim- Got Married Willow Got Married Positive
-Sim- Died Melissa Died Negative
Got a Promotion Got a Promotion Positive
Got a Promotion Got a Promotion Positive
-Sim- Died Lerato Died Negative
-Sim- Died Peponi Died Negative
Got a Promotion Got a Promotion Positive
Got a Promotion Got a Promotion Positive
-Sim- Died Jessica Died Negative
Had Very First Kiss with -Sim- Kissed Rigger for the First Time Positive
-Sim- Died Benjamin Died Negative
Fell in Love with -Sim- Fell in Love with Rigger Mortis Positive
Got a Promotion Got a Promotion Positive
Got Engaged to -Sim- Got Engaged to Rigger Positive
Got Married to -Sim-, a Rich Sim Got Married to Rigger, a Rich Sim Positive
Got a Promotion Got a Promotion Positive
-Sim- Died Rigger Died Negative
Got a Promotion Got a Promotion Positive
Reached the Top of the -career- Career Reached the Top of the Slacker career Positive
Grew Up Grew Up Well Positive
-Sim- Died Vicki Died Negative
Had Very First Kiss with -Sim- Kissed Hugh for the First Time Positive
-Sim- Died Lyla Died Negative
Got Engaged to -Sim- Got Engaged to Hugh Positive
Got Married to -Sim- Got Married to Hugh Positive
-Sim- Died Lou Died Negative
-Sim- Died Hugh Died Negative
Did WooHoo with -Sim- Did WooHoo with Grim Reaper Positive
-Sim- Died Knut Died Negative
-Sim- Died Luc Died Negative
Had -Sim- Had Nervous! Positive
Became Best Friends with -Sim- Made Best Friends with Ichabod Positive
Child Taken by Social Worker Child taken by Social Worker Negative
Had Very First Kiss with -Sim- Kissed Ichabod for the First Time Positive
Fell in Love with -Sim- Fell in Love with Ichabod Positive
Got Engaged to -Sim- Got Engaged to Ichabod Positive
Got Married to -Sim- Got Married to Ichabod Positive
-Sim- Died Ichabod Died Negative
-Sim- Died Creon Died Negative
-Sim- Died Willow Died Negative
-Sim- Joined the Family! Ophelia Joined the Family! Positive
Grew Up Ophelia Grew Up Badly Negative

Olive's memory connections

If one studies the chronology of Olive's memories, it is apparent that she gave birth to her son Nervous after she had aged into an elder. Olive did WooHoo with the Grim Reaper after she became an elder. If one believes the theory that Grim Reaper is Nervous' father, that would mean that Olive got pregnant after she became an elder which is not possible through normal gameplay.

Olive's graveyard

There are a number of people buried in Olive's backyard along with family and former husbands - some of them are service people (maids, delivery people, etc.). Many of them have names that are related to death (Euthanasia, Early Demise, Rigor Mortis, etc.) There are many theories about Olive, and many unknown questions, such as the causes for all of the deaths. A few players think perhaps before the game was in stores many Sims died, many other think they might be Olive's victims, however, murder is technically impossible in The Sims games, it's a possible storyline. Olive's biography states that she will "stop at nothing to get what she wants." It also states that she spends her time "sharpening sticks," which may suggest her use of a weapon for her victims, and as well as "excavating her yard," which gives the clue that she spends her time digging holes to bury the bodies of her victims. Her surname, Specter, is also related to death, as a specter is another term for ghost.

Trivia

  • Olive's name might be a play on the phrase "I love specter" possibly showing her love of the Grim Reaper.
  • Olive's name could also be a play on "o-live", as in an 'alive specter', or a live ghost - possibly again a relation to the Grim Reaper.
  • Olive, along with Herb and Coral Oldie, are the only living Sims in The Sims 2 base game that do not have grandparents in their family tree.
  • She remembers giving birth to a different Nervous Subject than the one that lives in Beaker household.
  • Like many people buried on her lot, she has no eyebrows.
  • Olive has a hidden Fortune aspiration token which can be viewed in SimPE along with her other memories.
  • On the official The Sims 2 website, sometimes in the news they would make reference to Olive Specter's cemetery, but they call it Olive's garden. Sometimes it is called Olive's garden in-game also. It could possibly be a reference to Olive Garden, which is thought to be a favorite restaurant for some of the game creators.
  • Without the use of cheats or the Elixir of Life, Olive dies of old age after about 2 days, the same day Ophelia becomes an adult.
  • When editing her in SimPE, her natural hair color is determined as brown, though both her parents have black hair, and in the family's gallery, she is shown as an adult with black hair. This could be a mistake by the developers.
  • In The Sims 3 a medium painting can be the picture of Olive being left at the altar by Earl. It is a common Easter egg.
  • Olive has no known relationships with anyone in her graveyard except Ichabod Specter, Lerato Muenda, Peponi Muenda, and Willow Nigmos. Strangely, each of these Sims are mere acquaintances with Olive despite being in her immediate family. They are also non-resurrectable. Using SimPE, you can see that she also has relationship points with 19 "Unknown" Sims. The remaining Sims in her graveyard appear to have relationship values but they are not considered "known" relationships because the box is unchecked.
  • Olive seems to have an obsession with death. An example would be her choice of spouses, Earl E. Demise (Early Demise), Rigger Mortis (Rigor mortis, the act of muscles stiffening after death), Hugh Thanasia (Pun on Euthanasia, the act of ending a life painlessly), etc. The hypothesis is supported by the past relationship she had with the Grim Reaper
  • Olive's bio suggests the possibility of her being a murderer and the people at her graveyard being her victims, as she spends her time "sharpening sticks and excavating her garden" and she will stop at nothing to get what she wants.

Gallery

Other languages

Language The Sims 2 The Sims 3
English Olive Specter Olive Specter
Brazilian Portuguese Olívia Espectro Oliva Espectro
Chinese (Simplified) 奥利弗 斯贝克特
Chinese (Traditional) 歐莉芙 斯派特
Czech Olivie Přízračná
Danish Olivia Spøgh-Elsen
Dutch Olijfje Siebrand Olive Specter
European Portuguese Olívia Espectro
Finnish Olivia Vainajala Olivia Vainajala
French Olivia Chimère Vert olive Chimère

German

Olivia Speck
Hebrew אוליב ספקטר אוליב ספקטר
Italian Olive Specter
Japanese オリーヴ スペクター
Korean 올리브 스펙터 올리브 스펙터
Norwegian Olivia Aandesen
Polish Oliwka Widmo Olive Specter
Russian Gertruda Necronomicon
(Гертруда Некрономикон) 		Oliva Phantom
(Олива Фантом)
Russian 2 Oliviya Specter
(Оливия Спектер)
Spanish Olvido Fantoche
Swedish Olivia Gast
Thai โอลีฟ สเปคเตอร์

See also

Notes

  1. ↑ Since inheritance in The Sims 2 is separate from family funds, the family funds will pass to Ophelia as long as she is living on the lot when Olive dies.
  2. ↑ If Olive significantly improves her relationship with Ophelia before she dies, there is a chance that some of the inheritance will go her.
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