Olive Specter (née Muenda, previously Mortis and Thanasia) is one of the pre-made, playable Sims that ships with The Sims 2 and The Sims 4: Life & Death.
She and her teenage niece, Ophelia Nigmos, reside in the Specter household in the neighborhood of Strangetown. Olive is a many-time widow - her many husbands included Hugh Thanasia, Rigger Mortis, and Ichabod Specter (all are deceased before the game begins). She was also left at the altar by Earl E. DeMise, who died soon after. The death of her many husbands has led some players to theorize that Olive is a murderer or was somehow responsible for their deaths; these theories remain unconfirmed.
She later appeared as a younger version of herself alongside her son Nervous Subject in the store world Midnight Hollow.
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Family | Specter family |
Marital status | Engaged |
Romances | Earl E. DeMise ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Children | Nyon Specter ![]() |
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Roommates | Layne Coffin, Nyon Specter |
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Hair color | Black |
Eye color | Brown |
Skin color | Warm tone 16 |
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Playability | Playable |
World | Ravenwood |
Biography[]
In the alternate timeline of The Sims 4, Olive lives in Crow's Crossing with her new fiance Layne Coffin and her son Nyon Specter, who was known as Nervous Subject in the original timeline and was taken away by the Social Worker before he was a child. This name change is explained by him not getting experimented on by the Beaker family yet in the alternate timeline. The developers described him as "pre-Nervous," suggesting it takes place before he met the Beakers and became Nervous Subject.[1] Olive is an adult, 42 days away from becoming an elder.
Ravenwood Rumors[]
Olive Specter, like other citizens of Ravenwood, has a special interaction called Ravenwood Rumors that reveals tidbits of lore relating to the Sim, their ancestry, or the town's history. Depending on your relationship level with this Sim, different secrets will be revealed.
0-32 Relationship Points[]
- "I've been a Mortician for years! My poor—and quite dearly missed—husbands met some...unfortunate ends and I really felt a calling to the craft. You know, we're always looking for new recruits!"
- "My philosophy when it comes to décor is that if you're not making sure your place has personality, you're not living. Or a ghost either. Not my point. But anyway, I'm sure some places have more personality than most. My house has a serious issue with flickering lights, doors slammed by someone other than Nyon, and a TV that changes to static. It's odd, almost as if I'm haunted. Though why on earth should I be? My former husbands, all absolute dears, are resting quite peacefully!"
33-65 Relationship Points[]
- "Nyon's been more distant with me these days. I guess that's just what happens with a lot of teenagers, but he's also been asking a lot of questions about his dad and about my past as well. Personally, I'd rather leave the past dead and buried. Wouldn't you?"
- "Because the cemetery isn't far from me, I visit often. I feel like I'm quite acquainted with the dead, and it's calming to see the gravesites tended to. I'll often just peer into the pond. Layne, though, he's gone straight for that pond when he's visited. He caught a frog out of it one night; peculiar little thing."
- "Have you seen that strange Bell Tower in Mourningvale? I'd heard once that people used to gather whenever someone rang its bell. I wonder if that's true? It makes me feel so odd whenever I walk past it."
66-100 Relationship Points[]
- "More than once, I’ve walked into a room to see Layne just staring at the TV. He’s been transfixed by the Static TV channel. Wouldn’t you think he has better things to do? He seems mesmerized by it."
- "Just before we moved to Crow’s Crossing, we were warned that it’s a little on the lively side. I have to say, we were not warned that a memorial cannon is occasionally fired. That might have been appreciated! I’ve chosen to stay away from that well not too far from us too; I’ve heard what sounded like a child shrieking or having some sort of tantrum last time I came close and I just thought, “You know what? I don’t need a shrieking child in my life, thank you very much.”"
- "I feel so bad about Zuleika dying like that, from her own plant no less! It’s not like I lost her completely, but it’s not the same to hang out with a ghost. Still, we try to talk whenever she stops back by Crow's Crossing. She doesn’t ask a lot of questions about my past, which is very refreshing given, well, you know."
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Firsts | ||
First Woohoo | Olive had her first WooHoo! | |
First Promotion | Olive took the first step up the career ladder! | |
Life | ||
Got a Job | Olive started a new job. | |
Had a Baby | Nyon Specter joined the family! | |
Social | ||
Woohoo'd with Grim! | Olive WooHoo'd with the Grim Reaper. This is an interesting choice, but good for her! | |
Widowed | Few things are sadder than when spouses are separated by death. | |
Got Engaged | Olive got engaged! | |
Got Engaged | Olive got engaged! | |
Fell in Love | It's in the air and in Olive's heart: love! | |
Caught Cheating | Yikes. Olive was caught cheating. | |
Got Engaged | Olive got engaged to Layne Coffin. | |
Fell in Love | Olive fell in love with Layne Coffin. |
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Firsts | ||
First Woohoo | Olive had her first WooHoo! | |
First Promotion | Olive took the first step up the career ladder! | |
Life | ||
Got a Job | Olive started a new job. | |
Had a Baby | Nyon Specter joined the family! | |
Social | ||
Woohoo'd with Grim! | Olive WooHoo'd with the Grim Reaper. This is an interesting choice, but good for her! | |
Widowed | Few things are sadder than when spouses are separated by death. | |
Got Engaged | Olive got engaged! | |
Got Engaged | Olive got engaged! | |
Fell in Love | It's in the air and in Olive's heart: love! | |
Caught Cheating | Yikes. Olive was caught cheating. | |
Got Engaged | Olive got engaged to Layne Coffin. | |
Fell in Love | Olive fell in love with Layne Coffin. |
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Romance Women & Men |
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WooHoo Women & Men |
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Romantic Exploration Yes |
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WooHoo Triggers Jealousy |
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Physical Romance Triggers Jealousy |
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Non-Physical Romance Triggers Jealousy |
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Romantic Boundaries Exploring |
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Family | Specter family |
Marital status | Single |
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Roommates | Ophelia Specter |
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Hair color | Gray |
Eye color | Brown |
Skin color | Medium |
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Playability | Gallery |
Biography[]
A version of Olive, along with Ophelia was released by Maxis on The Sims 4 Gallery. This version of Olive is unemployed and has no skills, however, and despite now sharing the name Specter with Ophelia the two do not recognize each other as family since Willow isn't in their household. Since she is only accessed through downloads, she is also not related to Nervous Subject, who lives in the Beaker household.
Simology[]
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High freedom and high fashion? What more can a girl ask for? | |
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Family | Specter family |
Marital status | Widowed |
Romances | Hugh Thanasia ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Children | Nervous Subject ![]() |
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Playability | Playable |
World | Midnight Hollow |
Biography[]
Olive appears alongside her son Nervous Subject in the store world Midnight Hollow.
There seems to be some kind of timeline confusion surrounding Nervous being taken away by social services and Olive's marriage to Ichabod Specter. In the Strangetown storyline from The Sims 2, Nervous had already been taken away by the time she married Ichabod, and therefore before Ichabod's death, whereas in Midnight Hollow, Ichabod is already dead and a ghost in her garden. Oddly, Earl E. DeMise does not appear in this world, although there is a grave in the buydebug menu that reads "Reserved for Earl E. DeMise" and the description reads "What's this about Easter Eggs?" The family tree does not show who Nervous' father is, even though some evidence is pointing at that Nervous' father is the Grim Reaper in the family bio. This may be due to the Grim Reaper only being generated when needed.
Simology[]
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Olive will stop at nothing to get what she wants. She spends her time collecting mushrooms, sharpening sticks, and excavating her yard. | |
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Family | |
Family | Specter family |
Parents | Peponi Muenda, Lerato Muenda ![]() |
Siblings | Willow Nigmos ![]() ![]() |
Marital status | Widowed |
Romances | Earl E. DeMise ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Children | Nervous Subject ![]() |
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Roommates | Ophelia Nigmos |
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Playability | Playable |
Neighborhood | Strangetown |
Biography[]
Olive shares her eerie, haunted home with her niece, Ophelia Nigmos. Her sister, Willow Nigmos, and Willow's husband Creon are both deceased and buried in Olive's garden; their deaths are the result of drowning. She is the daughter of Lerato Muenda and Peponi Muenda, both also of Strangetown, who both died in a fire. There is nothing to suggest these were the acts of murder by this stage as there was no motive, but there is a chance that the family name is cursed. 'Muenda' means 'To go' in Swahili.
Some time after several of her husbands' deaths, Olive tracked down the Grim Reaper to give him a piece of her mind, only to fall in love with him and they had WooHoo, which suggests she had more than a passing relationship with death. This resulted in Olive becoming pregnant with a son, Nervous Subject. Oddly enough, when the player gets the Paranormal career reward, introduced in the The Sims 2: University expansion pack, and calls the Grim Reaper, he will say that Olive doesn't know anybody who has died. This is because all the victims in her garden have unlinked character files.
Olive also had a son - Nervous Subject - who was taken away by the Social Worker. There is no record of Nervous' father in the family tree, though some say it is the Grim Reaper. Nervous, now an adult, currently resides at the Beaker residence with Loki and Circe Beaker, who adopted him to perform experiments on him. Everyone expects Olive's money to be inherited by Ophelia following her death, but, surprisingly, all her inheritance goes to her son, Nervous Subject.[2][3]
She dislikes General Buzz Grunt, whose ex-wife died on Olive's lot soon after leaving the Grunt household. Even though they dislike each other, Buzz will almost always visit her lot, even if he's invited over immediately. This may prove the theory that Olive is a serial-killer and since they don't like each other, Buzz could be her next victim. Another piece of evidence suggesting Olive may be a murderer is the fact that Earl E. DeMise died right after leaving Olive at the altar.
When first played, Olive will have a want to retire; because she has reached level 5 of the Slacker career, Olive has a Slacker career reward available for her to purchase. Although she has the correct skills for her career level, she lacks any of the friends required. When the family is first played, she will be on her 10th day as an elder.
During gameplay, she will eventually die from old age, which is the same day that Ophelia will age up to adult. Her relationships with Ophelia, Nervous Subject, and others will effect how much she leaves them, via her will. She will also pass away, on her property, allowing her to be kept in an urn, or perhaps buried on the property, with the multitude of other grave stones.
Simology[]
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Potty Trained by Lerato | Positive |
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Learned to Walk from Lerato | Positive |
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Learned to Talk from Lerato | Positive |
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Grew Up Well | Positive |
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Met Mystery Sim | Positive |
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Willow Grew Up Well | Positive |
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Grew Up Well | Positive |
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Danielle Died | Negative |
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Grew Up Well | Positive |
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Got a Job | Positive |
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Had Very First Kiss with Earl E. | Positive |
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Kissed Earl E. for the First Time | Positive |
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Willow Grew Up Well | Positive |
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Got a Promotion | Positive |
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Fell in Love with Earl E. | Positive |
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Got Engaged to Earl E. | Positive |
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Got Left at the Altar by Earl E. | Negative |
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Earl E. Died | Negative |
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Willow Grew Up Well | Positive |
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Tim Lee Died | Negative |
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Seth Died | Negative |
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Patrick Died | Negative |
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Willow Got Engaged | Positive |
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Willow Got Married | Positive |
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Melissa Died | Negative |
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Got a Promotion | Positive |
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Got a Promotion | Positive |
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Lerato Died | Negative |
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Peponi Died | Negative |
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Got a Promotion | Positive |
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Got a Promotion | Positive |
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Jessica Died | Negative |
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Kissed Rigger for the First Time | Positive |
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Benjamin Died | Negative |
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Fell in Love with Rigger Mortis | Positive |
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Got a Promotion | Positive |
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Got Engaged to Rigger | Positive |
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Got Married to Rigger, a Rich Sim | Positive |
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Got a Promotion | Positive |
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Rigger Died | Negative |
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Got a Promotion | Positive |
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Reached the Top of the Slacker career | Positive |
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Grew Up Well | Positive |
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Vicki Died | Negative |
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Kissed Hugh for the First Time | Positive |
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Lyla Died | Negative |
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Got Engaged to Hugh | Positive |
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Got Married to Hugh | Positive |
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Lou Died | Negative |
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Hugh Died | Negative |
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Did WooHoo with Grim Reaper | Positive |
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Knut Died | Negative |
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Luc Died | Negative |
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Had Nervous! | Positive |
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Made Best Friends with Ichabod | Positive |
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Child taken by Social Worker | Negative |
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Kissed Ichabod for the First Time | Positive |
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Fell in Love with Ichabod | Positive |
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Got Engaged to Ichabod | Positive |
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Got Married to Ichabod | Positive |
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Ichabod Died | Negative |
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Creon Died | Negative |
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Willow Died | Negative |
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Ophelia Joined the Family! | Positive |
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Ophelia Grew Up Badly | Negative |
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Potty Trained by Lerato | Positive |
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Learned to Walk from Lerato | Positive |
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Learned to Talk from Lerato | Positive |
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Grew Up Well | Positive |
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Met Mystery Sim | Positive |
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Willow Grew Up Well | Positive |
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Grew Up Well | Positive |
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Danielle Died | Negative |
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Grew Up Well | Positive |
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Got a Job | Positive |
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Had Very First Kiss with Earl E. | Positive |
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Kissed Earl E. for the First Time | Positive |
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Willow Grew Up Well | Positive |
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Got a Promotion | Positive |
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Fell in Love with Earl E. | Positive |
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Got Engaged to Earl E. | Positive |
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Got Left at the Altar by Earl E. | Negative |
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Earl E. Died | Negative |
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Willow Grew Up Well | Positive |
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Tim Lee Died | Negative |
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Seth Died | Negative |
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Patrick Died | Negative |
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Willow Got Engaged | Positive |
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Willow Got Married | Positive |
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Melissa Died | Negative |
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Got a Promotion | Positive |
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Got a Promotion | Positive |
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Lerato Died | Negative |
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Peponi Died | Negative |
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Got a Promotion | Positive |
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Got a Promotion | Positive |
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Jessica Died | Negative |
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Kissed Rigger for the First Time | Positive |
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Benjamin Died | Negative |
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Fell in Love with Rigger Mortis | Positive |
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Got a Promotion | Positive |
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Got Engaged to Rigger | Positive |
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Got Married to Rigger, a Rich Sim | Positive |
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Got a Promotion | Positive |
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Rigger Died | Negative |
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Got a Promotion | Positive |
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Reached the Top of the Slacker career | Positive |
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Grew Up Well | Positive |
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Vicki Died | Negative |
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Kissed Hugh for the First Time | Positive |
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Lyla Died | Negative |
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Got Engaged to Hugh | Positive |
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Got Married to Hugh | Positive |
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Lou Died | Negative |
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Hugh Died | Negative |
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Did WooHoo with Grim Reaper | Positive |
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Knut Died | Negative |
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Luc Died | Negative |
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Had Nervous! | Positive |
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Made Best Friends with Ichabod | Positive |
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Child taken by Social Worker | Negative |
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Kissed Ichabod for the First Time | Positive |
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Fell in Love with Ichabod | Positive |
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Got Engaged to Ichabod | Positive |
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Got Married to Ichabod | Positive |
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Ichabod Died | Negative |
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Creon Died | Negative |
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Willow Died | Negative |
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Ophelia Joined the Family! | Positive |
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Ophelia Grew Up Badly | Negative |
Olive's memory connections[]
If one studies the chronology of Olive's memories, it is apparent that she gave birth to her son Nervous after she had aged into an elder. Olive did WooHoo with the Grim Reaper after she became an elder. If one believes the theory that Grim Reaper is Nervous' father, that would mean that Olive got pregnant after she became an elder which is not possible through normal gameplay.
Olive's graveyard[]
Trivia[]
- Olive's name might be a play on the phrase "I love specter" possibly showing her love of the Grim Reaper.
- Olive's name could also be a play on "o-live", as in an 'alive specter', or a live ghost - possibly again a relation to the Grim Reaper.
- Olive, along with Herb and Coral Oldie, are the only living Sims in The Sims 2 base game that do not have grandparents in their family tree.
- She remembers giving birth to a different Nervous Subject than the one that lives in Beaker household.
- Like many people buried on her lot, she has no eyebrows.
- Olive has a hidden Fortune aspiration token which can be viewed in SimPE along with her other memories.
- On the official The Sims 2 website, sometimes in the news they would make reference to Olive Specter's cemetery, but they call it Olive's garden. Sometimes it is called Olive's garden in-game also. It could possibly be a reference to Olive Garden, which is thought to be a favorite restaurant for some of the game creators.
- Without the use of cheats, the Elixir of Life or the Genie Lamp, Olive dies of old age after about 2 days, the same day Ophelia becomes an adult.
- When editing her in SimPE, her natural hair color is determined as brown, though both her parents have black hair, and in the family's gallery, she is shown as an adult with black hair. This could be a mistake by the developers.
- In The Sims 3 a medium painting can be the picture of Olive being left at the altar by Earl. It is a common Easter egg.
- Olive has no known relationships with anyone in her graveyard except Ichabod Specter, Lerato Muenda, Peponi Muenda, and Willow Nigmos. Strangely, each of these Sims are mere acquaintances with Olive despite being in her immediate family. They are also non-resurrectable. Using SimPE, you can see that she also has relationship points with 19 "Unknown" Sims. The remaining Sims in her graveyard appear to have relationship values but they are not considered "known" relationships because the box is unchecked.
- Olive seems to have an obsession with death. An example would be her choice of spouses, Earl E. Demise (Early Demise), Rigger Mortis (Rigor mortis, the act of muscles stiffening after death), Hugh Thanasia (Pun on Euthanasia, the act of ending a life painlessly), etc. The hypothesis is supported by the past relationship she had with the Grim Reaper
- Olive's bio suggests the possibility of her being a murderer and the people at her graveyard being her victims, as she spends her time "sharpening sticks and excavating her garden" and she will stop at nothing to get what she wants.
- However, her unlucky trait in The Sims 3 contradicts this and may imply that her husbands really did die from accidents and natural deaths.
- She lacks eyebrows in all iterations until her appearance in The Sims 4: Life and Death.
- Her character may have been inspired by Claudia Wolf from Silent Hill 3, which came out the year prior to The Sims 2, and Olive's character caters to the horror genre. It should also be noted that people who worked on the Silent Hill franchise have also worked on The Sims 2, such as Thessaly Lerner, who voiced the teen female voices, as well as the character Lisa Garland for the first Silent Hill game.
Gallery[]
Other languages[]
Language | The Sims 2 | The Sims 3: Midnight Hollow | The Sims 4: Life & Death |
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English | Olive Specter | Olive Specter | Olive Specter |
Brazilian Portuguese | Olívia Espectro | Oliva Espectro | Olívia Espectro |
Chinese (Simplified) | 奥利弗 斯贝克特 | ||
Chinese (Traditional) | 歐莉芙 斯派特 | ||
Czech | Olivie Přízračná | ||
Danish | Olivia Spøgh-Elsen | ||
Dutch | Olijfje Siebrand | Olive Specter | |
European Portuguese | Olívia Espectro | ||
Finnish | Olivia Vainajala | Olivia Vainajala | |
French | Olivia Chimère | Vert olive Chimère | Olivia Chimère |
German | Olivia Speck | Olivia Speck | |
Hebrew | אוליב ספקטר | אוליב ספקטר | |
Italian | Olive Specter | ||
Japanese | オリーヴ スペクター (Orīvu Supekutā) |
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Korean | 올리브 스펙터 (Ollibeu Seupegteo) |
올리브 스펙터 (Ollibeu Seupegteo) |
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Norwegian | Olivia Aandesen | ||
Polish | Oliwka Widmo | Olive Specter | Oliwka Widmo |
Russian | Гертруда Некрономикон (Gertruda Nekronomikon) |
Олива Фантом (Oliva Phantom) |
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Оливия Спектр[4] (Oliviya Spektr) | |||
Spanish | Olvido Fantoche | Olvido Fantoche | Olvido Fantoche |
Swedish | Olivia Gast | ||
Thai | โอลีฟ สเปคเตอร์ | ||
Hungarian | Oliva Vudu |
See also[]
Notes[]
- ↑ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DfV7shwdWus
- ↑ Since inheritance in The Sims 2 is separate from family funds, the family funds will pass to Ophelia as long as she is living on the lot when Olive dies.
- ↑ If Olive significantly improves her relationship with Ophelia before she dies, there is a chance that some of the inheritance will go to her.
- ↑ While her name in-game is Гертруда Некрономикон (Gertruda Nekronomikon), the scripted event message for the Specter household refers to her as Оливия Спектр (Oliviya Spektr).
Dates featured: August 2010.
The Specter family |
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Olive - Ophelia - Nervous/Nyon - Grim Reaper - Noela - Planchette |
Rigger - Hugh - Ichabod - Layne |