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Olive Specter
Olive Specter.png
Gender Female Female
Age TS3-Elder.png Elder
Life state CAS Human icon.png Sim
Biography
Olive will stop at nothing to get what she wants. She spends her time collecting mushrooms, sharpening sticks, and excavating her yard.
Education and employment
Career Slacker career.png Professional Party Guest
Family
Family/Families Specter family
Parents Peponi Muenda, Lerato Muenda Both Deceased
Siblings Willow Nigmos Younger Sister Deceased
Marital status Widowed
Romances Earl E. DeMiseEx-Fiancé, Hugh Thanasia Married, Rigger Mortis Married, Ichabod Specter Married All Deceased, Grim Reaper Lover
Children Nervous Subject Son
Personality
Zodiac sign Scorpio.png Scorpio
Aspiration Knowledge.png Knowledge
Appearance
Hair color TS2 Grey Hair.png Grey
Eye color TS2 Brown Eyes.png Brown
Skin color Skin-dark.png Dark
Body shape Thin Thin
Other information
Game The Sims 2 Icon.png The Sims 2
Playability Playable
Neighborhood Strangetown
Olive Specter
Olive Specter (The Sims 3).png
Gender Female Female
Age TS3-Adult.png Adult
Life state CAS Human icon.png Sim
Biography
High freedom and high fashion? What more can a girl ask for?
Education and employment
Career Culinary career icon.png Vegetable Slicer
Family
Family/Families Specter family
Marital status Widowed
Romances Hugh Thanasia Married, Rigger Mortis Married, Ichabod Specter Married All Deceased, Grim Reaper Lover
Children Nervous Subject Son
Personality
Traits Trait Bookworm small.png Bookworm
Trait Commitment Issues small.png Commitment Issues
Trait Friendly small.png Friendly
Trait Light Sleeper small.png Light Sleeper
Trait Unlucky small.png Unlucky
Zodiac sign AriesLN.png Aries
Lifetime wish LTW Living in the Lap of Luxury.png Living in the Lap of Luxury
Favorites Fav Indie.png Indie
Fav Cookies.png Cookies
Fav Irish Green.png Irish Green
Appearance
Hair color Haircolor7-TS3.jpg Grey
Eye color Eye-brown.png Brown
Skin color Dark skin-TS3.png Dark
Body shape Thin Thin
Other information
Game TS3MH Icon.png The Sims 3 Store
Playability Playable
World Midnight Hollow
Olive Specter
Olive Specter (The Sims 4).png
Gender Female Female
Age TS3-Elder.png Elder
Life state CAS Human icon.png Sim
Family
Family/Families Specter family
Marital status Single
Household
Roommates Ophelia Specter
Personality
Traits Trait TS4 Neat.png Neat
Trait TS4 Mean.png Mean
Trait TS4 Noncommittal.png Noncommittal
Trait TS4 Alluring.png Alluring
Aspiration Aspiration TS4 Serial Romantic.png Serial Romantic
Appearance
Hair color TS2 Grey Hair.png Grey
Eye color TS2 Brown Eyes.png Brown
Skin color Skin-medium.png Medium
Body shape Thin Thin
Other information
Game TS4 Icon.png The Sims 4
Playability Gallery

Olive Specter (née Muenda, previously Thanasia and Mortis) is one of the pre-made, playable Sims that ships with The Sims 2.

She and her teenage niece, Ophelia Nigmos, reside in the Specter household in the neighborhood of Strangetown. Olive is a many-time widow - her many husbands included Hugh Thanasia, Rigger Mortis, and Ichabod Specter (all are deceased before the game begins). She was also left at the altar by Earl E. DeMise, who died soon after. The death of her many husbands has led some players to theorize that Olive is a murderer or was somehow responsible for their deaths; these theories remain unconfirmed.

She later appeared as a younger version of herself alongside her son Nervous Subject in the store world Midnight Hollow.

Biography[edit | edit source]

Life leading up to The Sims 3[edit | edit source]

Olive appears alongside her son Nervous Subject in the store world Midnight Hollow.

There seems to be some kind of timeline confusion surrounding Nervous being taken away by social services and Olive's marriage to Ichabod Specter. In the Strangetown storyline from The Sims 2, Nervous had already been taken away by the time she married Ichabod, and therefore before Ichabod's death, whereas in Midnight Hollow, Ichabod is already dead and a ghost in her garden. Oddly, Earl E. DeMise does not appear in this world, although there is a grave in Dragon Valley that reads "Reserved for Earl E. DeMise" and "What's this about Easter Eggs?" The family tree does not show who Nervous' father is, even though some evidence is pointing at that Nervous' father is the Grim Reaper in the family bio. This may be due to the Grim Reaper only being generated when needed.

Life leading up to The Sims 2[edit | edit source]

Olive shares her eerie, haunted home with her niece, Ophelia Nigmos. Her sister, Willow Nigmos, and Willow's husband Creon are both deceased and buried in Olive's garden; their deaths are the result of drowning. She is the daughter of Lerato Muenda and Peponi Muenda, both also of Strangetown, who both perished as a result of fire.

Olive did WooHoo with none other than the Grim Reaper; which suggests Olive had more than a passing relationship with death. Oddly enough, when the player gets the Paranormal career reward, introduced in the University expansion pack, and calls the Grim Reaper, he will say that Olive doesn't know anybody who has died. This is because all the victims in her garden have unlinked character files.

Olive also had a son - Nervous Subject - who was taken away by the Social Worker. There is no record of Nervous' father in the family tree, though some say it is the Grim Reaper. Nervous, now an adult, currently resides at the Beaker residence with Loki and Circe Beaker. Everyone expects Olive's money to be inherited by Ophelia following her death, but, surprisingly, the inheritance goes to Nervous Subject.[1][2]

She dislikes General Buzz Grunt, whose ex-wife died on Olive's lot soon after leaving the Grunt household. Even though they dislike each other, Buzz will almost always come around to her lot if he is invited over immediately. This may prove the theory that Olive is a "serial-killer" and since they don't like each other, Buzz could be her next victim. Another evidence that she may be a murderer is the fact that Earl E. DeMise died right after leaving Olive at the altar.

When first played, she will have a want to retire. Because she has reached level 5 of the Slacker career, Olive has a Slacker career reward available for her to purchase. When the family is first played, she will be on her 10th day as an Elder.

Life leading up to The Sims 4[edit | edit source]

A version of Olive, along with Ophelia was released by Maxis on The Sims 4 Gallery. This version of Olive is unemployed and has no skills, however, and despite now sharing the name Specter with Ophelia the two do not recognize each other as family since Willow isn't in their household. Since she is only accessed through downloads, she is also not related to this timeline's Nervous Subject, who lives in the Beaker household.

Simology[edit | edit source]

The Sims 2
Image Skill Level
Skill Mechanical.png Mechanical 4
Skill Charisma.png Charisma 5
Skill Creativity.png Creativity 5
The Sims 3
Image Skill Level
Culinary career icon.png Cooking 2

The Sims 2
Image Name Relationship level
Buzz Grunt.png General Buzz Grunt Acquaintance
Ophelia Nigmos.png Ophelia Nigmos Acquaintance
Nervous Subject.png Nervous Subject Acquaintance
The Sims 3
Image Name Relationship level
Nervous Subject (Midnight Hollow).png Nervous Subject Good Friend
Joaquin Dorsey.png Joaquin Dorsey Acquaintance
Josie Crane.png Josie Crane Acquaintance
The Sims 4
Image Name Relationship level
Ophelia Specter.png Ophelia Specter Acquaintance

The Sims 2
Personality
Scorpio
Scorpio
Sloppy 10 Neat
Shy 5 Outgoing
Lazy 5 Active
Serious 3 Playful
Grouchy 2 Nice
VibraLN.png
Sign / personality mismatch
A Sim with this personality would normally be a Virgo.
Info information icon.png
Genetic personality
Olive was born with 4 playful points and 1 nice point.

The Sims 2
Image Interest Level
Environment interest.png Environment 10
Food interest.png Food 9
Weather interest.png Weather 8
Culture interest.png Culture 0
Money interest.png Money 10
Politics interest.png Politics 4
Paranormal interest.png Paranormal 10
Health interest.png Health 10
Fashion interest.png Fashion 0
Travel interest.png Travel 0
Crime interest.png Crime 10
Sports interest.png Sports 0
Entertainment interest.png Entertainment 0
Animals interest.png Animals 10
Work interest.png Work 2
School interest.png School 2
Toys interest.png Toys 0
Sci-Fi interest.png Sci-Fi 5

The Sims 2
Image Memory Type
Potty Trained.png Potty Trained by Lerato Positive
Learned to Walk from -Sim-.png Learned to Walk from Lerato Positive
Learned to Talk from -Sim-.png Learned to Talk from Lerato Positive
Grew Up.png Grew Up Well Positive
Met -Sim-.png Met Mystery Sim Positive
Grew Up.png Willow Grew Up Well Positive
Grew Up.png Grew Up Well Positive
-Sim- Died.png Danielle Died Negative
Grew Up.png Grew Up Well Positive
Got a Job.png Got a Job Positive
Had Very First Kiss with -Sim-.png Had Very First Kiss with Earl E. Positive
Had Very First Kiss with -Sim-.png Kissed Earl E. for the First Time Positive
Grew Up.png Willow Grew Up Well Positive
Got a Promotion.png Got a Promotion Positive
Fell in Love with -Sim-.png Fell in Love with Earl E. Positive
Got Engaged to -Sim-.png Got Engaged to Earl E. Positive
Got Left at the Altar by -Sim-.png Got Left at the Altar by Earl E. Negative
-Sim- Died.png Earl E. Died Negative
Grew Up.png Willow Grew Up Well Positive
-Sim- Died.png Tim Lee Died Negative
-Sim- Died.png Seth Died Negative
-Sim- Died.png Patrick Died Negative
-Sim- Got Engaged.png Willow Got Engaged Positive
-Sim- Got Married.png Willow Got Married Positive
-Sim- Died.png Melissa Died Negative
Got a Promotion.png Got a Promotion Positive
Got a Promotion.png Got a Promotion Positive
-Sim- Died.png Lerato Died Negative
-Sim- Died.png Peponi Died Negative
Got a Promotion.png Got a Promotion Positive
Got a Promotion.png Got a Promotion Positive
-Sim- Died.png Jessica Died Negative
Had Very First Kiss with -Sim-.png Kissed Rigger for the First Time Positive
-Sim- Died.png Benjamin Died Negative
Fell in Love with -Sim-.png Fell in Love with Rigger Mortis Positive
Got a Promotion.png Got a Promotion Positive
Got Engaged to -Sim-.png Got Engaged to Rigger Positive
Got Married to -Sim-, a Rich Sim.png Got Married to Rigger, a Rich Sim Positive
Got a Promotion.png Got a Promotion Positive
-Sim- Died.png Rigger Died Negative
Got a Promotion.png Got a Promotion Positive
Reached the Top of the -career- Career.png Reached the Top of the Slacker career Positive
Grew Up.png Grew Up Well Positive
-Sim- Died.png Vicki Died Negative
Had Very First Kiss with -Sim-.png Kissed Hugh for the First Time Positive
-Sim- Died.png Lyla Died Negative
Got Engaged to -Sim-.png Got Engaged to Hugh Positive
Got Married to -Sim-.png Got Married to Hugh Positive
-Sim- Died.png Lou Died Negative
-Sim- Died.png Hugh Died Negative
Did WooHoo with -Sim-.png Did WooHoo with Grim Reaper Positive
-Sim- Died.png Knut Died Negative
-Sim- Died.png Luc Died Negative
Had -Sim-.png Had Nervous! Positive
Became Best Friends with -Sim-.png Made Best Friends with Ichabod Positive
Child Taken by Social Worker.png Child taken by Social Worker Negative
Had Very First Kiss with -Sim-.png Kissed Ichabod for the First Time Positive
Fell in Love with -Sim-.png Fell in Love with Ichabod Positive
Got Engaged to -Sim-.png Got Engaged to Ichabod Positive
Got Married to -Sim-.png Got Married to Ichabod Positive
-Sim- Died.png Ichabod Died Negative
-Sim- Died.png Creon Died Negative
-Sim- Died.png Willow Died Negative
-Sim- Joined the Family!.png Ophelia Joined the Family! Positive
Grew Up.png Ophelia Grew Up Badly Negative

Olive's memory connections[edit | edit source]

If one studies the chronology of Olive's memories, it is apparent that she gave birth to her son Nervous after she had aged into an elder. Olive did WooHoo with the Grim Reaper after she became an elder. If one believes the theory that Grim Reaper is Nervous' father, that would mean that Olive got pregnant after she became an elder which is not possible through normal gameplay.

Olive's graveyard[edit | edit source]

There are a number of people buried in Olive's backyard along with family and former husbands - some of them are service people (maids, delivery people, etc.). Many of them have names that are related to death (Euthanasia, Early Demise, Rigor Mortis, etc.) There are many theories about Olive, and many unknown questions, such as the causes for all of the deaths. A few players think perhaps before the game was in stores many Sims died, many other think they might be Olive's victims, however, murder is technically impossible in The Sims games, it's a possible storyline. Olive's biography states that she will "stop at nothing to get what she wants." It also states that she spends her time "sharpening sticks," which may suggest her use of a weapon for her victims, and as well as "excavating her yard," which gives the clue that she spends her time digging holes to bury the bodies of her victims. Her surname, Specter, is also related to death, as a specter is another term for ghost.

Trivia[edit | edit source]

  • Olive's name might be a play on the phrase "I love specter" possibly showing her love of the Grim Reaper.
  • Olive's name could also be a play on "o-live", as in an 'alive specter', or a live ghost - possibly again a relation to the Grim Reaper.
  • Olive, along with Herb and Coral Oldie, are the only living Sims in The Sims 2 base game that do not have grandparents in their family tree.
  • She remembers giving birth to a different Nervous Subject than the one that lives in Beaker household.
  • Like many people buried on her lot, she has no eyebrows.
  • Olive has a hidden Fortune aspiration token which can be viewed in SimPE along with her other memories.
  • On the official The Sims 2 website, sometimes in the news they would make reference to Olive Specter's cemetery, but they call it Olive's garden. Sometimes it is called Olive's garden in-game also. It could possibly be a reference to Olive Garden, which is thought to be a favorite restaurant for some of the game creators.
  • Without the use of cheats or the Elixir of Life, Olive dies of old age after about 2 days, the same day Ophelia becomes an adult.
  • When editing her in SimPE, her natural hair color is determined as brown, though both her parents have black hair, and in the family's gallery, she is shown as an adult with black hair. This could be a mistake by the developers.
  • In The Sims 3 a medium painting can be the picture of Olive being left at the altar by Earl. It is a common Easter egg.
  • Olive has no known relationships with anyone in her graveyard except Ichabod Specter, Lerato Muenda, Peponi Muenda, and Willow Nigmos. Strangely, each of these Sims are mere acquaintances with Olive despite being in her immediate family. They are also non-resurrectable. Using SimPE, you can see that she also has relationship points with 19 "Unknown" Sims. The remaining Sims in her graveyard appear to have relationship values but they are not considered "known" relationships because the box is unchecked.
  • Olive seems to have an obsession with death. An example would be her choice of spouses, Earl E. Demise (Early Demise), Rigger Mortis (Rigor mortis, the act of muscles stiffening after death), Hugh Thanasia (Pun on Euthanasia, the act of ending a life painlessly), etc. The hypothesis is supported by the past relationship she had with the Grim Reaper
  • Olive's bio suggests the possibility of her being a murderer and the people at her graveyard being her victims, as she spends her time "sharpening sticks and excavating her garden" and she will stop at nothing to get what she wants.

Gallery[edit | edit source]

Other languages[edit | edit source]

Language The Sims 2 The Sims 3
English Olive Specter Olive Specter
Brazilian Portuguese Olívia Espectro Oliva Espectro
Chinese (Simplified) 奥利弗 斯贝克特
Chinese (Traditional) 歐莉芙 斯派特
Czech Olivie Přízračná
Danish Olivia Spøgh-Elsen
Dutch Olijfje Siebrand Olive Specter
European Portuguese Olívia Espectro
Finnish Olivia Vainajala Olivia Vainajala
French Olivia Chimère Vert olive Chimère

German

Olivia Speck
Hebrew אוליב ספקטר אוליב ספקטר
Italian Olive Specter
Japanese オリーヴ スペクター
Korean 올리브 스펙터 올리브 스펙터
Norwegian Olivia Aandesen
Polish Oliwka Widmo Olive Specter
Russian Gertruda Necronomicon
(Гертруда Некрономикон)
Oliva Phantom
(Олива Фантом)
Russian 2 Oliviya Specter
(Оливия Спектер)
Spanish Olvido Fantoche
Swedish Olivia Gast
Thai โอลีฟ สเปคเตอร์

See also[edit | edit source]

Notes[edit | edit source]

  1. Since inheritance in The Sims 2 is separate from family funds, the family funds will pass to Ophelia as long as she is living on the lot when Olive dies.
  2. If Olive significantly improves her relationship with Ophelia before she dies, there is a chance that some of the inheritance will go her.
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