Olive Specter

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Olive Specter
Gender	Female
Age	Elder
Life state	Sim
Biography
Olive will stop at nothing to get what she wants. She spends her time collecting mushrooms, sharpening sticks, and excavating her yard.
Education and employment
Career	Professional Party Guest
Family
Family/Families	Specter family
Parents	Peponi Muenda, Lerato Muenda
Siblings	Willow Nigmos
Marital status	Widowed
Romances	Earl E. DeMise, Hugh Thanasia , Rigger Mortis , Ichabod Specter  , Grim Reaper
Children	Nervous Subject
Personality
Zodiac sign	Scorpio
Aspiration	Knowledge
Appearance
Hair color	Grey
Eye color	Brown
Skin color	Dark
Body shape	Thin
Other information
Game	The Sims 2
Playability	Playable
Neighborhood	Strangetown

Olive Specter
Gender	Female
Age	Adult
Life state	Sim
Biography
High freedom and high fashion? What more can a girl ask for?
Education and employment
Career	Vegetable Slicer
Family
Family/Families	Specter family
Marital status	Widowed
Romances	Earl E. DeMise, Hugh Thanasia , Rigger Mortis , Ichabod Specter  , Grim Reaper
Children	Nervous Subject
Personality
Traits	Bookworm
	Commitment Issues
	Friendly
	Light Sleeper
	Unlucky
Zodiac sign	Aries
Lifetime wish	Living in the Lap of Luxury
Favorites	Indie
	Cookies
	Irish Green
Appearance
Hair color	Grey
Eye color	Brown
Skin color	Dark
Body shape	Thin
Other information
Game	The Sims 3 Store
Playability	Playable
World	Midnight Hollow

Olive Specter
Gender	Female
Age	Elder
Life state	Sim
Family
Family/Families	Specter family
Marital status	Single
Personality
Traits	Neat
	Mean
	Noncommittal
	Alluring
Aspiration	Serial Romantic
Appearance
Hair color	Grey
Eye color	Brown
Skin color	Medium
Body shape	Thin
Other information
Game	The Sims 4
Playability	Gallery

Olive Specter (née Muenda, previously Thanasia and Mortis) is one of the pre-made, playable Sims that ships with The Sims 2.

She and her teenage niece, Ophelia Nigmos, reside in the Specter household in the neighborhood of Strangetown. Olive is a many-time widow - her many husbands included Hugh Thanasia, Rigger Mortis, and Ichabod Specter (all are deceased before the game begins). She was also left at the altar by Earl E. DeMise, who died soon after. The death of her many husbands has led some players to theorize that Olive is a murderer or was somehow responsible for their deaths; these theories remain unconfirmed.

She later appeared as a younger version of herself alongside her son Nervous Subject in the store world Midnight Hollow.

BiographyEdit

Life leading up to The Sims 3Edit

Olive appears alongside her son Nervous Subject in the store world Midnight Hollow.

There seems to be some kind of timeline confusion surrounding Nervous being taken away by social services and Olive's marriage to Ichabod Specter. In the Strangetown storyline from The Sims 2, Nervous had already been taken away by the time she married Ichabod, and therefore before Ichabod's death, whereas in Midnight Hollow, Ichabod is already dead and a ghost in her garden. Oddly, Earl E. DeMise does not appear in this world, although there is a grave in Dragon Valley that reads "Reserved for Earl E. DeMise" and "What's this about Easter Eggs?" The family tree does not show who Nervous' father is, even though some evidence is pointing at that Nervous' father is the Grim Reaper in the family bio. This may be due to the Grim Reaper only being generated when needed.

Life leading up to The Sims 2Edit

Olive shares her eerie, haunted home with her niece, Ophelia Nigmos. Her sister, Willow Nigmos, and Willow's husband Creon are both deceased and buried in Olive's garden; their deaths are the result of drowning. She is the daughter of Lerato Muenda and Peponi Muenda, both also of Strangetown, who both perished as a result of fire.

Olive did WooHoo with none other than the Grim Reaper; which suggests Olive had more than a passing relationship with death. Oddly enough, when the player gets the Paranormal career reward, introduced in the University expansion pack, and calls the Grim Reaper, he will say that Olive doesn't know anybody who has died. This is because all the victims in her garden have unlinked character files.

Olive also had a son - Nervous Subject - who was taken away by the Social Worker. There is no record of Nervous' father in the family tree, though some say it is the Grim Reaper. Nervous, now an adult, currently resides at the Beaker residence with Loki and Circe Beaker. Everyone expects Olive's money to be inherited by Ophelia following her death, but, surprisingly, the inheritance goes to Nervous Subject.^[1][2]

She dislikes General Buzz Grunt, whose ex-wife died on Olive's lot soon after leaving the Grunt household. Even though they dislike each other, Buzz will almost always come around to her lot if he is invited over immediately. This may prove the theory that Olive is a "serial-killer" and since they don't like each other, Buzz could be her next victim. Another evidence that she may be a murderer is the fact that Earl E. DeMise died right after leaving Olive at the altar.

When first played, she will have a want to retire. Because she has reached level 5 of the Slacker career, Olive has a Slacker career reward available for her to purchase. When the family is first played, she will be on her 10th day as an Elder.

SimologyEdit

The Sims 2

Image	Skill	Level
	Mechanical
	Charisma
	Creativity

The Sims 3

Image	Skill	Level
	Cooking

The Sims 2

Image	Name	Relationship level
	General Buzz Grunt	Acquaintance
	Ophelia Nigmos	Acquaintance
	Nervous Subject	Acquaintance

The Sims 3

Image	Name	Relationship level
	Nervous Subject	Good Friend
	Joaquin Dorsey	Acquaintance
	Josie Crane	Acquaintance

The Sims 2

Personality
Scorpio
Sloppy		Neat
Shy		Outgoing
Lazy		Active
Serious		Playful
Grouchy		Nice

Sign / personality mismatch

A Sim with this personality would normally be a Virgo.

Genetic personality

Olive was born with 4 playful points and 1 nice point.

The Sims 2

Image	Interest	Level
	Environment
	Food
	Weather
	Culture
	Money
	Politics
	Paranormal
	Health
	Fashion
	Travel
	Crime
	Sports
	Entertainment
	Animals
	Work
	School
	Toys
	Sci-Fi

The Sims 2

Image	Memory	Type
	Potty Trained by Lerato	Positive
	Learned to Walk from Lerato	Positive
	Learned to Talk from Lerato	Positive
	Grew Up Well	Positive
	Met Mystery Sim	Positive
	Willow Grew Up Well	Positive
	Grew Up Well	Positive
	Danielle Died	Negative
	Grew Up Well	Positive
	Got a Job	Positive
	Had Very First Kiss with Earl E.	Positive
	Kissed Earl E. for the First Time	Positive
	Willow Grew Up Well	Positive
	Got a Promotion	Positive
	Fell in Love with Earl E.	Positive
	Got Engaged to Earl E.	Positive
	Got Left at the Altar by Earl E.	Negative
	Earl E. Died	Negative
	Willow Grew Up Well	Positive
	Tim Lee Died	Negative
	Seth Died	Negative
	Patrick Died	Negative
	Willow Got Engaged	Positive
	Willow Got Married	Positive
	Melissa Died	Negative
	Got a Promotion	Positive
	Got a Promotion	Positive
	Lerato Died	Negative
	Peponi Died	Negative
	Got a Promotion	Positive
	Got a Promotion	Positive
	Jessica Died	Negative
	Kissed Rigger for the First Time	Positive
	Benjamin Died	Negative
	Fell in Love with Rigger Mortis	Positive
	Got a Promotion	Positive
	Got Engaged to Rigger	Positive
	Got Married to Rigger, a Rich Sim	Positive
	Got a Promotion	Positive
	Rigger Died	Negative
	Got a Promotion	Positive
	Reached the Top of the Slacker career	Positive
	Grew Up Well	Positive
	Vicki Died	Negative
	Kissed Hugh for the First Time	Positive
	Lyla Died	Negative
	Got Engaged to Hugh	Positive
	Got Married to Hugh	Positive
	Lou Died	Negative
	Hugh Died	Negative
	Did WooHoo with Grim Reaper	Positive
	Knut Died	Negative
	Luc Died	Negative
	Had Nervous!	Positive
	Made Best Friends with Ichabod	Positive
	Child taken by Social Worker	Negative
	Kissed Ichabod for the First Time	Positive
	Fell in Love with Ichabod	Positive
	Got Engaged to Ichabod	Positive
	Got Married to Ichabod	Positive
	Ichabod Died	Negative
	Creon Died	Negative
	Willow Died	Negative
	Ophelia Joined the Family!	Positive
	Ophelia Grew Up Badly	Negative

Olive's memory connectionsEdit

If one studies the chronology of Olive's memories, it is apparent that she gave birth to her son Nervous after she had aged into an elder. Olive did WooHoo with the Grim Reaper after she became an elder. If one believes the theory that Grim Reaper is Nervous' father, that would mean that Olive got pregnant after she became an elder which is not possible through normal gameplay.

Olive's graveyardEdit

There are a number of people buried in Olive's backyard along with family and former husbands - some of them are service people (maids, delivery people, etc.). Many of them have names that are related to death (Euthanasia, Early Demise, Rigor Mortis, etc.) There are many theories about Olive, and many unknown questions, such as the causes for all of the deaths. A few players think perhaps before the game was in stores many Sims died, many other think they might be Olive's victims, however, murder is technically impossible in The Sims games, it's a possible storyline. Olive's biography states that she will "stop at nothing to get what she wants." It also states that she spends her time "sharpening sticks," which may suggest her use of a weapon for her victims, and as well as "excavating her yard," which gives the clue that she spends her time digging holes to bury the bodies of her victims. Her surname, Specter, is also related to death, as a specter is another term for ghost.

TriviaEdit

• Olive's name might be a play on the phrase "I love specter" possibly showing her love of the Grim Reaper.
• Olive's name could also be a play on "o-live", as in an 'alive specter', or a live ghost - possibly again a relation to the Grim Reaper.
• Olive, along with Herb and Coral Oldie, are the only living Sims in The Sims 2 base game that do not have grandparents in their family tree.
• She remembers giving birth to a different Nervous Subject than the one that lives in Beaker household.
• Like many people buried on her lot, she has no eyebrows.
• Olive has a hidden Fortune aspiration token which can be viewed in SimPE along with her other memories.
• On the official The Sims 2 website, sometimes in the news they would make reference to Olive Specter's cemetery, but they call it Olive's garden. Sometimes it is called Olive's garden in-game also. It could possibly be a reference to Olive Garden, which is thought to be a favorite restaurant for some of the game creators.
• Without the use of cheats or the Elixir of Life, Olive dies of old age after about 2 days, the same day Ophelia becomes an adult.
• When editing her in SimPE, her natural hair color is determined as brown, though both her parents have black hair, and in the family's gallery, she is shown as an adult with black hair. This could be a mistake by the developers.
• In The Sims 3 a medium painting can be the picture of Olive being left at the altar by Earl. It is a common Easter egg.
• Olive has no known relationships with anyone in her graveyard except Ichabod Specter, Lerato Muenda, Peponi Muenda, and Willow Nigmos. Strangely, each of these Sims are mere acquaintances with Olive despite being in her immediate family. They are also non-resurrectable. Using SimPE, you can see that she also has relationship points with 19 "Unknown" Sims. The remaining Sims in her graveyard appear to have relationship values but they are not considered "known" relationships because the box is unchecked.
• Olive seems to have an obsession with death. An example would be her choice of spouses, Earl E. Demise (Early Demise), Rigger Mortis (Rigor mortis, the act of muscles stiffening after death), Hugh Thanasia (Pun on Euthanasia, the act of ending a life painlessly), etc. The hypothesis is supported by the past relationship she had with the Grim Reaper
• Olive's bio suggests the possibility of her being a murderer and the people at her graveyard being her victims, as she spends her time "sharpening sticks and excavating her garden" and she will stop at nothing to get what she wants.

GalleryEdit

Olive after being left at the altar by Earl who died shortly after.

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See alsoEdit

• List of Sims who died on the Specter lot
• Mysteries

NotesEdit

1. ↑ Since inheritance in The Sims 2 is separate from family funds, the family funds will pass to Ophelia as long as she is living on the lot when Olive dies.
2. ↑ If Olive significantly improves her relationship with Ophelia before she dies, there is a chance that some of the inheritance will go her.

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