Olive Specter

Olive Specter (née Muenda) (previously Mortis and Thanasia) is one of the pre-made playable Sims featured in The Sims 2 and The Sims 4: Life & Death.

She and her teen niece, Ophelia Nigmos, reside in the Specter household in the neighborhood of Strangetown. Olive is a many-time widow - her many husbands included Hugh Thanasia, Rigger Mortis, and Ichabod Specter (all are deceased before the game begins). She was also left at the altar by Earl E. DeMise, who died soon after. The death of her many husbands has led some players to theorize that Olive is a murderer or was somehow responsible for their deaths; these theories remain unconfirmed.

She later appeared as a younger version of herself alongside her son Nervous Subject in the store world Midnight Hollow.

• The Sims 4: Life & Death
• The Sims 4 Gallery
• The Sims 3
• The Sims 2

Olive Specter
Gender	Female
Age	Adult
Life state	Sim
Education and employment
Career	Mortuary Assistant
Family
Family	Specter family
Marital status	Engaged
Romances	Earl E. DeMise , Hugh Thanasia , Rigger Mortis , Ichabod Specter  , Grim Reaper , Layne Coffin
Children	Nyon Specter
Household
Roommates	Layne Coffin, Nyon Specter
Personality
Traits	Macabre
	Neat
	Bookworm
	Alluring
Aspiration	Serial Romantic
Appearance
Hair color	Black
Eye color	Brown
Skin color	Warm tone 16
Body shape	Thin
Other information
Game	The Sims 4: Life & Death
Playability	Playable
World	Ravenwood

Biography

In the alternate timeline of The Sims 4, Olive lives in Crow's Crossing with her new fiancé Layne Coffin and son Nyon Specter, who was known as Nervous Subject in the original timeline and was taken away by the Social Worker before he was a child. This name change is explained by him not getting experimented on by the Beaker family yet in the alternate timeline. The developers described him as "pre-Nervous," suggesting it takes place before he met the Beakers and became Nervous Subject. Olive is an adult, 42 days away from becoming an elder.

Simology

• Skills
• Relationships
• Likes and Dislikes
• Milestones
• Relationship Preferences

Skills
	Charisma
	Fitness
	Logic
	Painting
	Writing

Skills
	Charisma
	Fitness
	Logic
	Painting
	Writing

Relationships
	Layne Coffin	Engaged, Sweetheart
45/100 75/100	Good
	Nyon Specter	Son, Friend
45/100	Good
	Zuleika Izadi	Good Friends
60/100	Amazing
	Zelmira Gomes	Disliked
-20/100	Good
	Tziporah Gomes	Disliked
-70/100
	Esther Gomes	Disliked
-70/100	Amazing

Relationships
	Layne Coffin	Engaged, Sweetheart
45/100 75/100	Good
	Nyon Specter	Son, Friend
45/100	Good
	Zuleika Izadi	Good Friends
60/100	Amazing
	Zelmira Gomes	Disliked
-20/100	Good
	Tziporah Gomes	Disliked
-70/100
	Esther Gomes	Disliked
-70/100	Amazing

Activities Painting Rocket Science Thanatology Writing Colors Green Conversation Topics Affection Deception Malicious Interactions Physical Intimacy

Music Alternative Decor Boho Characteristics Pet Enthusiasts Rascals

Milestones
Firsts
	First Woohoo	Olive had her first WooHoo!
	First Promotion	Olive took the first step up the career ladder!
Life
	Got a Job	Olive started a new job.
	Had a Baby	Nyon Specter joined the family!
Social
	Woohoo'd with Grim!	Olive WooHoo'd with the Grim Reaper. This is an interesting choice, but good for her!
	Widowed	Few things are sadder than when spouses are separated by death.
	Got Engaged	Olive got engaged!
	Got Engaged	Olive got engaged!
	Fell in Love	It's in the air and in Olive's heart: love!
	Caught Cheating	Yikes. Olive was caught cheating.
	Got Engaged	Olive got engaged to Layne Coffin.
	Fell in Love	Olive fell in love with Layne Coffin.

Milestones
Firsts
	First Woohoo	Olive had her first WooHoo!
	First Promotion	Olive took the first step up the career ladder!
Life
	Got a Job	Olive started a new job.
	Had a Baby	Nyon Specter joined the family!
Social
	Woohoo'd with Grim!	Olive WooHoo'd with the Grim Reaper. This is an interesting choice, but good for her!
	Widowed	Few things are sadder than when spouses are separated by death.
	Got Engaged	Olive got engaged!
	Got Engaged	Olive got engaged!
	Fell in Love	It's in the air and in Olive's heart: love!
	Caught Cheating	Yikes. Olive was caught cheating.
	Got Engaged	Olive got engaged to Layne Coffin.
	Fell in Love	Olive fell in love with Layne Coffin.

Relationship Preferences
	Romance Women & Men		WooHoo Women & Men
	Romantic Exploration Yes		WooHoo Triggers Jealousy
	Physical Romance Triggers Jealousy		Non-Physical Romance Triggers Jealousy
	Romantic Boundaries Exploring

Social

Ravenwood Rumors

Olive, like other citizens of Ravenwood, has a special interaction called Ravenwood Rumors that reveals tidbits of lore relating to herself, her ancestry, or the town's history. Depending on your relationship level with Olive, different secrets will be revealed.

0-32 Relationship Points

• "I've been a Mortician for years! My poor—and quite dearly missed—husbands met some...unfortunate ends and I really felt a calling to the craft. You know, we're always looking for new recruits!"
• "My philosophy when it comes to décor is that if you're not making sure your place has personality, you're not living. Or a ghost either. Not my point. But anyway, I'm sure some places have more personality than most. My house has a serious issue with flickering lights, doors slammed by someone other than Nyon, and a TV that changes to static. It's odd, almost as if I'm haunted. Though why on earth should I be? My former husbands, all absolute dears, are resting quite peacefully!"

33-65 Relationship Points

• "Nyon's been more distant with me these days. I guess that's just what happens with a lot of teenagers, but he's also been asking a lot of questions about his dad and about my past as well. Personally, I'd rather leave the past dead and buried. Wouldn't you?"
• "Because the cemetery isn't far from me, I visit often. I feel like I'm quite acquainted with the dead, and it's calming to see the gravesites tended to. I'll often just peer into the pond. Layne, though, he's gone straight for that pond when he's visited. He caught a frog out of it one night; peculiar little thing."
• "Have you seen that strange Bell Tower in Mourningvale? I'd heard once that people used to gather whenever someone rang its bell. I wonder if that's true? It makes me feel so odd whenever I walk past it."

66-100 Relationship Points

• "More than once, I’ve walked into a room to see Layne just staring at the TV. He’s been transfixed by the Static TV channel. Wouldn’t you think he has better things to do? He seems mesmerized by it."
• "Just before we moved to Crow’s Crossing, we were warned that it’s a little on the lively side. I have to say, we were not warned that a memorial cannon is occasionally fired. That might have been appreciated! I’ve chosen to stay away from that well not too far from us too; I’ve heard what sounded like a child shrieking or having some sort of tantrum last time I came close and I just thought, “You know what? I don’t need a shrieking child in my life, thank you very much.”"
• "I feel so bad about Zuleika dying like that, from her own plant no less! It’s not like I lost her completely, but it’s not the same to hang out with a ghost. Still, we try to talk whenever she stops back by Crow's Crossing. She doesn’t ask a lot of questions about my past, which is very refreshing given, well, you know."

Olive Specter
Gender	Female
Age	Elder
Life state	Sim
Family
Family	Specter family
Marital status	Single
Household
Roommates	Ophelia Specter
Personality
Traits	Neat
	Mean
	Noncommittal
	Alluring
Aspiration	Serial Romantic
Appearance
Hair color	Gray
Eye color	Brown
Skin color	Medium
Body shape	Thin
Other information
Game	The Sims 4
Playability	Gallery

Biography

A version of Olive, along with Ophelia was released by Maxis on The Sims 4 Gallery. This version of Olive is unemployed and has no skills, however, and despite now sharing the name Specter with Ophelia the two do not recognize each other as family since Willow isn't in their household. Since she is only accessed through downloads, she is also not related to Nervous Subject, who lives in the Beaker household.

Simology

• Relationships

Relationships
	Ophelia Specter	Acquaintance

Relationships
	Ophelia Specter	Acquaintance

Olive Specter
Gender	Female
Age	Adult
Life state	Sim
Biography
High freedom and high fashion? What more can a girl ask for?
Education and employment
Career	Vegetable Slicer
Family
Family	Specter family
Marital status	Widowed
Romances	Hugh Thanasia , Rigger Mortis , Ichabod Specter  , Grim Reaper
Children	Nervous Subject
Personality
Traits	Bookworm
	Commitment Issues
	Friendly
	Light Sleeper
	Unlucky
Zodiac sign	Aries
Lifetime wish	Living in the Lap of Luxury
Favorites	Indie
	Cookies
	Irish Green
Appearance
Hair color	Gray
Eye color	Brown
Skin color	Dark
Body shape	Thin
Other information
Game	The Sims 3 Store
Playability	Playable
World	Midnight Hollow

Biography

Olive appears alongside her son Nervous Subject in the store world Midnight Hollow.

There seems to be some kind of timeline confusion surrounding Nervous being taken away by social services and Olive's marriage to Ichabod Specter. In the Strangetown storyline from The Sims 2, Nervous had already been taken away by the time she married Ichabod, and therefore before Ichabod's death, whereas in Midnight Hollow, Ichabod is already dead and a ghost in her garden. Oddly, Earl E. DeMise does not appear in this world, although there is a grave in the buydebug menu that reads "Reserved for Earl E. DeMise" and the description reads "What's this about Easter Eggs?" The family tree does not show who Nervous' father is, even though some evidence is pointing at that Nervous' father is the Grim Reaper in the family bio. This may be due to the Grim Reaper only being generated when needed.

Simology

• Skills
• Relationships

Skills
	Cooking

Skills
	Cooking

Relationships
	Nervous Subject	Good Friend
	Joaquin Dorsey	Acquaintance
	Josie Crane	Acquaintance

Relationships
	Nervous Subject	Good Friend
	Joaquin Dorsey	Acquaintance
	Josie Crane	Acquaintance

Olive Specter
Gender	Female
Age	Elder
Life state	Sim
Biography
Olive will stop at nothing to get what she wants. She spends her time collecting mushrooms, sharpening sticks, and excavating her yard.
Education and employment
Career	Professional Party Guest
Family
Family	Specter family
Parents	Peponi Muenda, Lerato Muenda
Siblings	Willow Nigmos
Marital status	Widowed
Romances	Earl E. DeMise , Hugh Thanasia , Rigger Mortis , Ichabod Specter  , Grim Reaper
Children	Nervous Subject
Household
Roommates	Ophelia Nigmos
Personality
Zodiac sign	Scorpio
Aspiration	Knowledge
Appearance
Hair color	Grey
Eye color	Brown
Skin color	Dark
Body shape	Thin
Other information
Game	The Sims 2
Playability	Playable
Neighborhood	Strangetown

Biography

Olive shares her eerie, haunted home with her niece, Ophelia. Her sister, Willow Nigmos (née Muenda), and Willow's husband Creon are both deceased and buried in Olive's garden; their deaths are the result of drowning. She is the daughter of Lerato and Peponi Muenda, both also of Strangetown, who both died in a fire. There is nothing to suggest these were the acts of murder by this stage as there was no motive, but there is a chance that the family name is cursed. 'Muenda' means 'To go' in Swahili.

Some time after several of her husbands' deaths, Olive tracked down the Grim Reaper to give him a piece of her mind, only to fall in love with him and they had WooHoo, which suggests she had more than a passing relationship with death. This resulted in Olive becoming pregnant with a son, Nervous Subject. Oddly enough, when the player gets the Paranormal career reward, introduced in University, and calls the Grim Reaper, he will say that Olive doesn't know anybody who has died. This is because all the victims in her garden have unlinked character files.

Olive also had a son - Nervous Subject - who was taken away by the Social Worker. There is no record of Nervous' father in the family tree, though some say it is the Grim Reaper. Nervous, now an adult, currently resides at the Beaker residence with Loki and Circe Beaker, who adopted him to perform experiments on him. Everyone expects Olive's money to be inherited by Ophelia following her death, but, surprisingly, all her inheritance goes to her son, Nervous Subject.

She dislikes General Buzz Grunt, whose ex-wife died on Olive's lot soon after leaving the Grunt household. Even though they dislike each other, Buzz will almost always visit her lot, even if he's invited over immediately. This may prove the theory that Olive is a serial-killer and since they don't like each other, Buzz could be her next victim. Another piece of evidence suggesting Olive may be a murderer is the fact that Earl E. DeMise died right after leaving Olive at the altar.

When first played, Olive will have a want to retire; because she has reached level 5 of the Slacker career, Olive has a Slacker career reward available for her to purchase. Although she has the correct skills for her career level, she lacks any of the friends required. When the family is first played, she will be on her 10th day as an elder.

During gameplay, she will eventually die from old age, which is the same day that Ophelia will age up to adult. Her relationships with Ophelia, Nervous Subject, and others will effect how much she leaves them, via her will. She will also pass away, on her property, allowing her to be kept in an urn, or perhaps buried on the property, with the multitude of other grave stones.

Simology

• Skills
• Relationships
• Personality
• Interests
• Memories

Skills
	Mechanical
	Charisma
	Creativity

Skills
	Mechanical
	Charisma
	Creativity

Relationships
	General Buzz Grunt	Acquaintance
	Ophelia Nigmos	Acquaintance
	Nervous Subject	Acquaintance

Relationships
	General Buzz Grunt	Acquaintance
	Ophelia Nigmos	Acquaintance
	Nervous Subject	Acquaintance

Personality
Scorpio Scorpio
Sloppy		Neat
Shy		Outgoing
Lazy		Active
Serious		Playful
Grouchy		Nice

Sign / personality mismatch

A Sim with this personality would normally be a Virgo.

Genetic personality

Olive was born with 4 playful points and 1 nice point.

Interests
	Politics
	Crime
	Food
	Sports
	Work
	School
	Money
	Entertainment
	Health
	Paranormal
	Weather
	Toys
	Environment
	Culture
	Fashion
	Travel
	Animals
	Sci-Fi

Memories
	Potty Trained by Lerato	Positive
	Learned to Walk from Lerato	Positive
	Learned to Talk from Lerato	Positive
	Grew Up Well	Positive
	Met Mystery Sim	Positive
	Willow Grew Up Well	Positive
	Grew Up Well	Positive
	Danielle Died	Negative
	Grew Up Well	Positive
	Got a Job	Positive
	Had Very First Kiss with Earl E.	Positive
	Kissed Earl E. for the First Time	Positive
	Willow Grew Up Well	Positive
	Got a Promotion	Positive
	Fell in Love with Earl E.	Positive
	Got Engaged to Earl E.	Positive
	Got Left at the Altar by Earl E.	Negative
	Earl E. Died	Negative
	Willow Grew Up Well	Positive
	Tim Lee Died	Negative
	Seth Died	Negative
	Patrick Died	Negative
	Willow Got Engaged	Positive
	Willow Got Married	Positive
	Melissa Died	Negative
	Got a Promotion	Positive
	Got a Promotion	Positive
	Lerato Died	Negative
	Peponi Died	Negative
	Got a Promotion	Positive
	Got a Promotion	Positive
	Jessica Died	Negative
	Kissed Rigger for the First Time	Positive
	Benjamin Died	Negative
	Fell in Love with Rigger Mortis	Positive
	Got a Promotion	Positive
	Got Engaged to Rigger	Positive
	Got Married to Rigger, a Rich Sim	Positive
	Got a Promotion	Positive
	Rigger Died	Negative
	Got a Promotion	Positive
	Reached the Top of the Slacker career	Positive
	Grew Up Well	Positive
	Vicki Died	Negative
	Kissed Hugh for the First Time	Positive
	Lyla Died	Negative
	Got Engaged to Hugh	Positive
	Got Married to Hugh	Positive
	Lou Died	Negative
	Hugh Died	Negative
	Did WooHoo with Grim Reaper	Positive
	Knut Died	Negative
	Luc Died	Negative
	Had Nervous!	Positive
	Made Best Friends with Ichabod	Positive
	Child taken by Social Worker	Negative
	Kissed Ichabod for the First Time	Positive
	Fell in Love with Ichabod	Positive
	Got Engaged to Ichabod	Positive
	Got Married to Ichabod	Positive
	Ichabod Died	Negative
	Creon Died	Negative
	Willow Died	Negative
	Ophelia Joined the Family!	Positive
	Ophelia Grew Up Badly	Negative

Memories
	Potty Trained by Lerato	Positive
	Learned to Walk from Lerato	Positive
	Learned to Talk from Lerato	Positive
	Grew Up Well	Positive
	Met Mystery Sim	Positive
	Willow Grew Up Well	Positive
	Grew Up Well	Positive
	Danielle Died	Negative
	Grew Up Well	Positive
	Got a Job	Positive
	Had Very First Kiss with Earl E.	Positive
	Kissed Earl E. for the First Time	Positive
	Willow Grew Up Well	Positive
	Got a Promotion	Positive
	Fell in Love with Earl E.	Positive
	Got Engaged to Earl E.	Positive
	Got Left at the Altar by Earl E.	Negative
	Earl E. Died	Negative
	Willow Grew Up Well	Positive
	Tim Lee Died	Negative
	Seth Died	Negative
	Patrick Died	Negative
	Willow Got Engaged	Positive
	Willow Got Married	Positive
	Melissa Died	Negative
	Got a Promotion	Positive
	Got a Promotion	Positive
	Lerato Died	Negative
	Peponi Died	Negative
	Got a Promotion	Positive
	Got a Promotion	Positive
	Jessica Died	Negative
	Kissed Rigger for the First Time	Positive
	Benjamin Died	Negative
	Fell in Love with Rigger Mortis	Positive
	Got a Promotion	Positive
	Got Engaged to Rigger	Positive
	Got Married to Rigger, a Rich Sim	Positive
	Got a Promotion	Positive
	Rigger Died	Negative
	Got a Promotion	Positive
	Reached the Top of the Slacker career	Positive
	Grew Up Well	Positive
	Vicki Died	Negative
	Kissed Hugh for the First Time	Positive
	Lyla Died	Negative
	Got Engaged to Hugh	Positive
	Got Married to Hugh	Positive
	Lou Died	Negative
	Hugh Died	Negative
	Did WooHoo with Grim Reaper	Positive
	Knut Died	Negative
	Luc Died	Negative
	Had Nervous!	Positive
	Made Best Friends with Ichabod	Positive
	Child taken by Social Worker	Negative
	Kissed Ichabod for the First Time	Positive
	Fell in Love with Ichabod	Positive
	Got Engaged to Ichabod	Positive
	Got Married to Ichabod	Positive
	Ichabod Died	Negative
	Creon Died	Negative
	Willow Died	Negative
	Ophelia Joined the Family!	Positive
	Ophelia Grew Up Badly	Negative

Olive's memory connections

If one studies the chronology of Olive's memories, it is apparent that she gave birth to her son Nervous after she had aged into an elder. Olive did WooHoo with the Grim Reaper after she became an elder. If one believes the theory that Grim Reaper is Nervous' father, that would mean that Olive got pregnant after she became an elder which is not possible through normal gameplay.

Olive's graveyard

There are a number of people buried in Olive's backyard along with family and former husbands - some of them are service people (maids, delivery people, etc.). Many of them have names that are related to death (Euthanasia, Early Demise, Rigor Mortis, etc.) There are many theories about Olive, and many unknown questions, such as the causes for all of the deaths. Some players think perhaps before the game was in stores many Sims died. Many others believe they might be Olive's victims, (despite murder technically being an impossibility in The Sims games,) as a possible secret piece of her storyline. Olive's biography states that she will "stop at nothing to get what she wants." It also states that she spends her time "sharpening sticks," which may suggest her use of a weapon for her victims, and as well as "excavating her yard," which gives the clue that she spends her time digging holes to bury the bodies of her victims. Her surname, Specter, is also related to death, as a specter is another term for ghost.

Trivia

• Olive's name might be a play on the phrase "I love specter" possibly showing her love of the Grim Reaper.
• Olive's name could also be a play on "o-live", as in an 'alive specter', or a live ghost - possibly again a relation to the Grim Reaper.
• Olive, along with Herb and Coral Oldie, are the only living Sims in The Sims 2 base game that do not have grandparents in their family tree.
• She remembers giving birth to a different Nervous Subject than the one that lives in Beaker household.
• Like many people buried on her lot, she has no eyebrows.
• Olive has a hidden Fortune aspiration token which can be viewed in SimPE along with her other memories.
• On the official The Sims 2 website, sometimes in the news they would make reference to Olive Specter's cemetery, but they call it Olive's garden. Sometimes it is called Olive's garden in-game also. It could possibly be a reference to Olive Garden, which is thought to be a favorite restaurant for some of the game creators.
• Without the use of cheats, the Elixir of Life or the Genie Lamp, Olive dies of old age after about 2 days, the same day Ophelia becomes an adult.
• When editing her in SimPE, her natural hair color is determined as brown, though both her parents have black hair, and in the family's gallery, she is shown as an adult with black hair. This could be a mistake by the developers.
• In The Sims 3 a medium painting can be the picture of Olive being left at the altar by Earl. It is a common Easter egg.
• Olive has no known relationships with anyone in her graveyard except Ichabod Specter, Lerato Muenda, Peponi Muenda, and Willow Nigmos. Strangely, each of these Sims are mere acquaintances with Olive despite being in her immediate family. They are also non-resurrectable. Using SimPE, you can see that she also has relationship points with 19 "Unknown" Sims. The remaining Sims in her graveyard appear to have relationship values but they are not considered "known" relationships because the box is unchecked.
• Olive seems to have an obsession with death. An example would be her choice of spouses, Earl E. Demise (Early Demise), Rigger Mortis (Rigor mortis, the act of muscles stiffening after death), Hugh Thanasia (Pun on Euthanasia, the act of ending a life painlessly), etc. The hypothesis is supported by the past relationship she had with the Grim Reaper
• Olive's bio suggests the possibility of her being a murderer and the people at her graveyard being her victims, as she spends her time "sharpening sticks and excavating her garden" and she will stop at nothing to get what she wants.
  • However, her unlucky trait in The Sims 3 contradicts this and may imply that her husbands really did die from accidents and natural deaths.
• She lacks eyebrows in all iterations until her appearance in The Sims 4: Life & Death.

Gallery

• The Sims 4
• The Sims 2

Render of Olive and the Specter household as seen on The Sims 4: Life & Death cover.

Promotional screenshot of the Life & Death early incentives.

Olive in the Lasting Legacy Family Portrait and wearing the Plumed Elegance Mask.

Olive romances with Grim Reaper in the gameplay trailer for Life & Death.

Olive's CAS wardrobe in The Sims 4: Life and Death.

Olive's CAS wardrobe in The Sims 4 Gallery.

Olive after being left at the altar by her first lover, Earl, who died shortly after.

Olive on honeymoon with Rigger Mortis, her third lover (with dancing Hula Zombies in the background).

Olive marrying Ichabod Specter, her fourth lover and the only one who died of natural causes.

Olive sitting in her garden.

Olive's wardrobe in The Sims 2.

Other languages

Language	The Sims 2	The Sims 3: Midnight Hollow	The Sims 4: Life & Death
English	Olive Specter	Olive Specter	Olive Specter
Brazilian Portuguese	Olívia Espectro	Oliva Espectro	Olívia Espectro
Chinese (Simplified)	奥利弗 斯贝克特
Chinese (Traditional)	歐莉芙 斯派特
Czech	Olivie Přízračná
Danish	Olivia Spøgh-Elsen
Dutch	Olijfje Siebrand	Olive Specter
European Portuguese	Olívia Espectro
Finnish	Olivia Vainajala	Olivia Vainajala	Olivia Vainajala
French	Olivia Chimère	Vert olive Chimère	Olivia Chimère
German	Olivia Speck		Olivia Speck
Hebrew	אוליב ספקטר	אוליב ספקטר
Italian	Olive Specter
Japanese	オリーヴ スペクター (Orīvu Supekutā)
Korean	올리브 스펙터 (Ollibeu Seupegteo)	올리브 스펙터 (Ollibeu Seupegteo)
Norwegian	Olivia Aandesen
Polish	Oliwka Widmo	Olive Specter	Oliwka Widmo
Russian	Гертруда Некрономикон (Gertruda Nekronomikon)	Олива Фантом (Oliva Phantom)	Олива Фантом (Oliva Phantom)
	Оливия Спектр (Oliviya Spektr)
Spanish	Olvido Fantoche	Olvido Fantoche	Olvido Fantoche
Swedish	Olivia Gast
Thai	โอลีฟ สเปคเตอร์
Hungarian	Oliva Vudu

See also

• List of Sims who died on the Specter lot
• Mysteries

Notes

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